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Unusable Applications in Windows 8

  1. #1


    Posts : 7
    windows 8 upgrade

    Unusable Applications in Windows 8


    Hi
    I upgraded to Windows 8 about a month ago, and quite frankly I have never had so many problems on my previous operating systems (95, 98, 98SE, 2000NT, XP Home, XP Professional) as I have on this.

    I have had to completely reinstall Windows 8 three times now due to things going wrong, such as;

    1. 'Change PC Settings' became inoperative after a few days, nothing happens when I click on it.
    2. The 'Desktop' Tile all of a sudden disappeared from the main start-up apps.
    3. Some of my Desktop Shortcut Icons have turned blank just showing just a 'White Paper' Icon.
    4. Some programs when I launch, say the I don't have Administration Rights to access the program, when I do have admin rights.

    I notice looking through the posts in the forum that these problems come up very often, I have tried to fix them following other users advice but no joy.

    I have the latest drivers, this includes my Graphics Display driver which is the latest version.

    So whats going on with Windows 8, its the worst version of windows I've came across, when are the techies going to do something about these common problems, as I'm defiant to reinstall it all again which takes me all day due to the amount of software I have to reinstall.

    Hope you can give me some good advice how I can fix these ongoing problems.

    Kind Regards
    Keith

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  2. #2


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    You mean, you install Windows 8 and these things continually occur? I am wondering, how you installed it, as an Upgrade, as a fresh install, and if Fresh, what kind of install disk was it.

    Your Desktop Tile may have just been hidden, you can get to it from "Show All Apps" which you can get to by Right-Kliking the Metro Window.

    But the things that seem to be locked out, that sounds like two things: Your Activation has failed, or, your Hard Drive has developed Read Element Failure, which WILL happen from just one forced shutdown, you have to scan the whole drive using a program that can read the hard drive and fix errors - CHKDSK cannot do this, as you need to check the whole surface and all partitions within it.

    Down beneath my Sig Pic, there is a link for Hiren's Boot CD - Download that and burn it, boot to it, and get into "DOS PROGRAMS" - There are many Hard Drive Tools, I use three different ones: GWscan, which will read and repair your WHOLE drive - Western Digital WDIAG, which is the same program but made for WD drives - and ViVard, which can read and repair the whole drive if there are too many errors for GWscan or WDIAG to repair. Use one of those programs and check your Drive integrity.

    After that, Boot to Hiren's Mini XP and do a FULL CHKDSK from there using a command prompt - CHKDSK c: /x /r

    WHen you are done with those, reboot to Windows 8, and see if the Auto Repair runs and finalizes, it shoud run one more short CHKDSK and boot, see if your blanked out tiles and features come back.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 7
    windows 8 upgrade


    Hi
    Many thanks for your quick response and informative information.

    My Windows 8 is a Downloaded Upgrade and the license is activated.

    I have right clicked on the Apps, but there's No 'Desktop' tile there !

    I have done system scans and a hard drive scan using; 'System Mechanic' which came up OK.

    I will take your advice and download the boot files and put on disk, I will let you know of any further developments.

    Kind Regards
    Keith
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  4. #4


    Posts : 7
    windows 8 upgrade


    Hi
    I downloadeded "Hiren's Boot CD" as instructed, my Antivirus detected it as a Virus !!

    Keith
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  5. #5


    india
    Posts : 101
    Windows 8 pro with WMC x86 & windows Blue preview x86 with Windows 7 Ultimate SP1


    umm... i have got some help for you

    problem 1. for the change PC settings problem, boot with your windows 8 installation disc and do an automatic repair, it will find out any problem with your HD, Errors in your OS and will hopefully diagnose it.

    prob.2..... it is just the way XweaonX said

    prob.3 the desktop icons have turned out to be blank because they are not configured with an default program... like... if you consider windows 8 the default image viewer is your bitmap image viewer(modern app), many people have changed that config. like me to windows photo viewer(desktop app) so to see if any app has been given the default launcher.... to configure this.. right click on the file and use open with.... option
    the other reason behind this maybe, the extension of the file has been compromised. like, consider a pic with PNG format. if in case when you change the extension to anything which doesn't suit the app, the app may not work..!! .... so for this make sure what kind of the file was it before you had windows 8 and rename the extension , for this right-click on the file and move to ir's properties, to see what is it's extension

    problem 4. this is so because you haven't merged your microsoft account with your PC, you see...... you cant even delete windows.old Folder if you haven't merged a Microsoft account.
    Done.
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  6. #6


    india
    Posts : 101
    Windows 8 pro with WMC x86 & windows Blue preview x86 with Windows 7 Ultimate SP1


    and also... any of the files of the Hiren's Boot CD doesnt' have a virus..!! please read the FAQ. page below and see "why am i getting a virus warning for hiren's boot CD files"

    Frequently Asked Questions | HBCD Fan & Discussion Platform
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  7. #7


    Posts : 94
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Check your hard disk with crystal disk info and look for s.m.a.r.t. errors, also, give windows memory diagnostics a try, if both come clean, perform a real clean reinstall and avoid crapware like system mechanics, which usually end up screwing more than fixing problems.
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  8. #8


    india
    Posts : 101
    Windows 8 pro with WMC x86 & windows Blue preview x86 with Windows 7 Ultimate SP1


    coming again... i forgot to tell you a point
    change PC settings may not work if you have bad display drivers.. update them dude...
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  9. #9


    Sorry to rain on your parade guys, but nothing happens without a cause, even in the windows. You have to do something for things like that to happen. It maybe funny but since last November i have done a lot to my W8 and it's still ticking like Swiss watch. Experimented up and down with it and only once or twice had to do repair and even that only because of hardware problems caused by excessive OC. In the mean time a lot of people asked for advice on their systems and very occasionally I was able to replicate their problems. Never had such stable OS yet and went thru most of them since '80s.
    Most of those problems came from using various "Do it all system fixers" and excessive registry cleaners. So do not use them there's almost everything in the windows and W8 does not "dirty" itself nearly at all. A good uninstaller like Revo can get rid of most leftovers from programs, on disk or in the Registry. To fix most problems that "appeared by themselves" a quick System Restore would do.
    "God Mode" for win7 works on W8 too and gives you tens of system settings and utilities in a click of the mouse button. Another common mistake is that people indiscriminately disable various "Unneeded " Services or some "Fixer " program does it for them. Again, do not disable any unless you know exactly what they are for and what re precautions it brings. There's a tab on the properties on each one called "Dependencies" which will tell you what will happen if you turn them off. Most of them in W8 are "start and stop" and will not waste memory and processor cycles when not in use.
    That stuff about Admin rights is not exactly clear. Yes you can be Administrator on your system but there are various degrees of it. Onthe menu on the right mouse button there's a "Run as Administrator" which rely means Elevated Administrator Rights, so when some program tells you that it needs Administrator rights to run, use that, usually helps. The third degree is "Take Ownership" for a file, folder or even whole disk but requires a registry change, so use with caution.
    That "Desktop" tile is really not needed at all, you can always bring cursor to the left bottom corner and see miniature desktop or app that's open on it, that's what I do, or, push Windows button on the keyboard. If you want to bring back proper tile for it, it is also on the All Apps in Metro. right click on it and mark "Pin to Start".
    I successfully removed "windows.old" folder by starting to erase it and when it said that it can't remove some files I chustjumped over it and when the rest of them was deleted, restarted computer and after that was able to delete the rest.
    As for the icons that turned blank, it happens when they get associated with a particular program and than you get rid of it, they still didn't fix that problem but at least there's no "Hide icons when not used" from the desktop, like in XP.
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  10. #10


    Posts : 7
    windows 8 upgrade


    Hi Guys
    Many thanks for all your help and advice you've given me, I have tried all that Salim96 advised me to do, I refreshed windows with a boot application on a memory stick, it fixed the problems with the 'Change PC Settings' and I managed to get the 'Desktop Tile' back.

    All was working fine until this morning, I started Windows and I'm back to the two main problems again, there's No 'Desktop Tile' when I right click in Apps and 'Change PC Settings' does not respond !

    Yesterday I was reinstalling the programs that 'Refresh' removed, every time now I install 'Firefox' (latest Version 21.0) it works fine until I reboot my PC, then the shortcut and the main application file turn into a White Paper Icon. When I click on this to launch it comes up that I don't have permission to access this file.
    I have now reinstalled Firefox 4 times on top of the original program, when I do this it works fine until the next reboot or start up.
    I have even right clicked on the main application and checked permissions, I have 'Full Control' over these.

    I have also done a full scan of my drive with an up to date Antivirus, no problems found there.

    So to sum up guys, it looks like I'm stuck with the missing 'Desktop Tile' and inoperative 'Change PC Settings' until Microsoft comes out with a fix for this.

    Regards
    Keith
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