Why 2 partitions?

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Recently, I bought an ASUS N series notebook with Windows 8. It came with 2 partitions on the hard drive - C:// and Data D://. I assume that C drive is meant for the operating system, programs and system folders. Data D: is presumably meant for all the user's data files including documents, pictures and music.

What I find confusing however, is that Libraries has Documents, Pictures, Music and Videos for storing data and those folders are in C:. They are also conveniently located at the top of the File Explorer screen. In addition, Windows 8 has a 'File History' feature, which backs up files as they are created, but will only back up files in Libraries. Window seems to encourage using Libraries for data files.

If I keep all my files in the Libraries folders on the C partition, then what is D drive for? Keeping files in means I cannot use the File History feature and I have to scroll down in File Explorer to get to the files. The D: partition is much bigger than the C: partition so , if I don't use it, a lot of space is wasted.

Can anyone enlighten me as to why there are 2 partitions? I have searched everywhere for an answer to this to no avail so would appreciate you responses.
 

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Libraries is basically a collection of links (Junction points and/or Hard Links) to other folders on the same or different disks. So you could click on a link in Libraries and actually be browsing data on the D: drive.

[DEL]There is a good set of tutorials here: Master the basics of Microsoft Windows 7[/DEL]

Forget it, that's for Windows 7, sorry.
 

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I realize that Libraries is just a shortcut to files and is placde at the top of the screen for convenient access. If I save Word documents and photos in D: how to I get Libraries to open those files? Directing Word to save to D: does not enable opening of the files from Libraries. Maybe this is just a weird question because no one else seems to have this concern.
 

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Move?

You could move those folders to the D drive.
  • Create empty folders on the D drive and name them appropriately
  • Locate the original folders in your user folder
  • Right click on them and choose "Properties"
  • Click on the "Location" tab
  • Browse to your new folder and click on the "Move" button
  • Repeat as required
Once you have done that, the folders should be accessible from the Libraries.
 

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I realize that Libraries is just a shortcut to files and is placde at the top of the screen for convenient access. If I save Word documents and photos in D: how to I get Libraries to open those files? Directing Word to save to D: does not enable opening of the files from Libraries. Maybe this is just a weird question because no one else seems to have this concern.
It's very easy. Assuming, you have D:\Documents
1. Add D:\Documents to the Documents library
2. Open the library properties, select your folder, click Set save location.
3. (optional) Remove the folders you don't need.

Now when you save a document in Word, just click the Documents library and then Save. When you need to access, click the Documents library and it'll be there.

This is a good example how you can use libraries to bypass the hassle of moving personal folders to another partition (also explained by lehnerus2000 above). And yes, this method makes it easier to access your files from Explorer, including Open / Save as dialogs, because Library entry points are better integrated into the shell.
 
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Can anyone enlighten me as to why there are 2 partitions? I have searched everywhere for an answer to this to no avail so would appreciate you responses.

Two different partitions has good points and bad points, but I think good outweighs bad.

First If you need to restore or reinstall OS you can do it without losing your data in other partition.
Backups are better to manage and are smaller you can do OS partition image and backup data from data partition on separate schedule.
Downside is that you need to distribute your space in advance (of course you can resize partitions later but that takes time and has limitations) for example if you have lots and large software your system partition should be bigger but if you have lots of data you should assign more space to data partition.
 

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This is a good example how you can use libraries to bypass the hassle of moving personal folders to another partition (also explained by lehnerus2000 above). And yes, this method makes it easier to access your files from Explorer, including Open / Save as dialogs, because Library entry points are better integrated into the shell.

IMO, relocating the folders is better than creating a new set and then integrating them into the Libraries.

I have several programs that dump files into the Documents folder by default (Format Factory, Rainmeter and Macrium Reflect).
If you relocate the default folders, those files will go to the new folder location.

If you create new folders and keep the original folders, those files will go into the original folders.
I lost my custom Rainmeter ini files that way (when I reinstalled Windows 7). :eek:

Two different partitions has good points and bad points, but I think good outweighs bad.

First If you need to restore or reinstall OS you can do it without losing your data in other partition.
Backups are better to manage and are smaller you can do OS partition image and backup data from data partition on separate schedule.

Agreed.

Creating a backup HDD image takes less time, if the partitions are smaller.
Also, defragging the OS partition takes less time, if it is smaller and contains fewer files.

I like to keep random files off of my OS partition.
I use separate partitions (for Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos) which means I can use a 40 GB partition for my OS, instead of a 1 TB+ partition.
 

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Thank you for your responses. Having 2 partitions seems to be a good idea as explained by Baidukun and lehnerus2000. Ideally, I would like Libraries to remain at the top of File Explorer but read D:\Users\Joan. Is that what is meant by "relocating folders"? I tend to get a little lost referring to folders and programs so need specific instructions to put things in the right place.
Would the following process be correct?:
Click Computer
Click OS(C:\)
Click Users
Click Joan
Right click My Documents
Click Properties
Click the Location tab
Change the C:\ to D:\
Then ... Apply? or Move?
I would then do the same for Music, Pictures and Videos.
Please let me know if this is correct before I mess up royally.
Thanks
 

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Thank you to Medab1 for the link to ASUS service. I have never come across this site in all my searching. It looks great and is now bookmarked for future reference.
 

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I never get why some OEMs do such strange things with partitions. I'd just delete D: and extend C:.
 

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Did you buy an Asus? Gateways - PCs and Laptops. some of them are made by Asus, at least it's what my one Windows 7 Install disk tells me, as it reads the BIOS and installs the appropriate activation and support files. - They always partition up the hard drives for Data storage on a larger portion of the drive. My m7321u was like this, I've seen other Brands that are actually ASUS lately.

Just make an appropriate storage area on the Data drive, and add it to your Library as the others here suggest- Then point all of your Browser downloads to download to that folder. It's the best way to keep the space on your System drive down. The system drive does not need to be very large, it can be as low as 40 Gig. But even a 500 Gig System drive will fill up rapidly if all of your downloads are saved on it. I have about 6 TB total storage on all of my systems ands it's still not enough. The best management is to keep copies of the most important files in at least 2 places, in case of Drive Failure which is an Issue with Windows 8.
 

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IMO, relocating the folders is better than creating a new set and then integrating them into the Libraries.

I have several programs that dump files into the Documents folder by default (Format Factory, Rainmeter and Macrium Reflect).
If you relocate the default folders, those files will go to the new folder location.

If you create new folders and keep the original folders, those files will go into the original folders.
I lost my custom Rainmeter ini files that way (when I reinstalled Windows 7). :eek:
It's a very good point, but I'd separate software that incorrectly stores settings in Documents instead of AppData and software that keeps user generated content in Documents, like Camtasia or even Windows Assessment Console :)

But My Documents folder is included in the the library by default, so just don't remove it. The benefit is that you keep separately your documents and software stuff, which is rarely actual documents from exeprience.

But then it comes down to the question of user skills that is basically defined by the frequency of clean installations per time period :) Yet these skills are only about following Microsoft recommendations:

1. If you back up your files, say, with File History, than libraries are taken care of automatically.
2. If you have an installation disc or bothered to create an image, Refresh Your PC will keep your personal files even if you can't boot into the system.
3. If you don't have an installation disc, but at least bothered to create a recovery media, you can always retrieve your files.

But if you don't possess these skills, absolutely, you'd better move you personal folders and pray your [other] drive doesn't die ('cause you don't have backup). lehnerus2000, I don't mean you in particular here, it's aimed at general public ;)
 

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Basically ...

Thank you for your responses. Having 2 partitions seems to be a good idea as explained by Baidukun and lehnerus2000. Ideally, I would like Libraries to remain at the top of File Explorer but read D:\Users\Joan. Is that what is meant by "relocating folders"? I tend to get a little lost referring to folders and programs so need specific instructions to put things in the right place.
Would the following process be correct?:
Click Computer
Click OS(C:\)
Click Users
Click Joan
Right click My Documents
Click Properties
Click the Location tab
Change the C:\ to D:\
Then ... Apply? or Move?
I would then do the same for Music, Pictures and Videos.
Please let me know if this is correct before I mess up royally.
Thanks

That is basically correct.

However you should create the target folders first.

I suggest that you do something like:
1 - Create these folders:


  • [*=1]D:\Documents
    [*=1]D:\Music
    [*=1]D:\Pictures
    [*=1]D:\Videos
2 - Then change location:​


  • [*=1]C:\Documents to D:\Documents
    [*=1]C:\Music to D:\Music
    [*=1]C:\Pictures to D:\Pictures
    [*=1]C:\Videos to D:\Videos

Try it with one folder first.
If you miss the target (or change your mind) you can click the "Restore Default" button to reset the location.

But if you don't possess these skills, absolutely, you'd better move you personal folders and pray your [other] drive doesn't die ('cause you don't have backup). lehnerus2000, I don't mean you in particular here, it's aimed at general public ;)

I backup my Windows 7 partitions individually using Macrium Reflect.
Imaging with free Macrium - Windows 7 Help Forums

Notes:

Check to see if it is compatible with W8 before attempting to use it.
 
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Thank you all for the feedback. lehreus2000, I will create the folders as you suggest, and thank you for the clear instructions. I have seen the term 'target folder' before but don't really understand it.
If I make those changes, will any programs which use Libraries still know where to put files. I'm thinking in terms of My Pictures as I tell Word where to save.
 

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Vadikan, you brought up a concern I have. My computer came with a Recovery Partition (which I already used once to restore factory state after importing setting I didn't want). Do I also need to make a Recovery disk? I frequently back up my data and was intending to use the File History feature as it sounds really useful and there are no disadvantages to using it.
 

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A lot of programs use the My Documents or My Music as default locations. On your system the "My" folders are just links to the real folder location but the "My" name is still required for a lot of programs. Using Properties - Location as you have seen shows you the real folder location. When changing this location the Move will move all the files from the present folder to the new folder and all your programs are happy because the "My" name is still there. Hope this helps.

Jim :cool:
 

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For the Library right click a Library like Documents or Music and select Properties and it gives you a window to add or remove any folder to that library.

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Jim :cool:
 

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I do appreciate all the help and apologize for my limited knowledge. Phone Man, what changes would you suggest to this suggestion from lenerus2000?
However you should create the target folders first.

I suggest that you do something like:
1 - Create these folders:​



  • [*=1]D:\Documents
    [*=1]D:\Music
    [*=1]D:\Pictures
    [*=1]D:\Videos

2 - Then change location:​



  • [*=1]C:\Documents to D:\Documents
    [*=1]C:\Music to D:\Music
    [*=1]C:\Pictures to D:\Pictures
    [*=1]C:\Videos to D:\Videos
 

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I would organize you D: drive with what ever new folders you like and then Move the location in your "My" folders to the new folders. You could do something like D:\ Joan\Documents and so on to keep it organized. I have my D: drive with lots of other folders so by using my example it helps to keep it organized. It can all ways be changed if you want to in the future.

Jim :cool:
 

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