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No wonder PC sales are dying - look at the latest specs

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    My wife went from 1280x800 to 1920x1080 and it is night and day. So much easier to have multiple things open.
    I guess that is the reason that Metro only allows one fullscreen app.

    Quote Originally Posted by kmint View Post
    There is a lot of marketing behind screens, of course thanks to Apple the marketing bullsh*t king who can sell a comb to a bald with cool design and advertising.
    Nice.


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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    My wife went from 1280x800 to 1920x1080 and it is night and day. So much easier to have multiple things open.
    I guess that is the reason that Metro only allows one fullscreen app.

    Quote Originally Posted by kmint View Post
    There is a lot of marketing behind screens, of course thanks to Apple the marketing bullsh*t king who can sell a comb to a bald with cool design and advertising.
    Nice.

    I don't understand what's so hard about choice do people have such a hard time understanding? If you don't like metro, use desktop.

    Apple marketing is the king of bullsh*tting. Remember when iOS 5 came out? They added the notification bar... renamed to center and there were apple fans that honest to god believe apple invented it. They added twitter directly into the OS and there were a dozen or so articles by mashable and other iFan tech sites on how good it is that people now have no choice but to have twitter as an app. The choice was taken away from iOS users, and it was suppose to be a good thing.

    Apple came out with a high resolution display they dubbed as "retina display" and OMG everyone has to have it. Again, most people don't really care about the high resolution or are they capable of telling if it's that high of a resolution unless it's right side by side to something else. My x2 screen is a pretty darn good display at a lower resolution and every time I give it to an ipad 3 user they always thought the x2 has a "retina display". Shows it's nothing more than a gimmick. I used to have a 1920 x 1200 display device (the asus transformer infinity) and after I sold it to get my hp envy x2 I don't miss it. The human eye can only see so clearly before it becomes redundant.
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    I don't understand what's so hard about choice do people have such a hard time understanding? If you don't like metro, use desktop.
    If you use Windows 8, as provided, you can't start in the desktop, you can't use a desktop menu, you can't avoid the MPI (Mobile Phone Interface).
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    Exactamundo!
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    I don't understand what's so hard about choice do people have such a hard time understanding? If you don't like metro, use desktop.
    If you use Windows 8, as provided, you can't start in the desktop, you can't use a desktop menu, you can't avoid the MPI (Mobile Phone Interface).
    Here's the thing. If you install classic shell, you will boot directly into desktop.

    But it's a third party app, and it's an abomination to install a third party app, you say. Yes, it's an abomination to install a third party app, that's why nobody ever install any third party app ever and everybody always only use what comes with windows and nobody ever change any settings whatsoever.

    And even if you don't install classic shell, desktop is 1 click away. OMG, 1 click is too much work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Here's the thing. If you install classic shell, you will boot directly into desktop.

    But it's a third party app, and it's an abomination to install a third party app, you say. Yes, it's an abomination to install a third party app, that's why nobody ever install any third party app ever and everybody always only use what comes with windows and nobody ever change any settings whatsoever.

    And even if you don't install classic shell, desktop is 1 click away. OMG, 1 click is too much work!
    I use Classic Shell and I've tried ModernMix, but that's not the point; these are programs designed to reintroduce something that should not have been removed in the first place. In one of the early iterations of Windows 8 (prior to final release) it was possible to bring back the start button/menu natively. Microsoft immediately changed the coding to remove that option and so we now have to use these third party programs.

    Who is to say that in their stupidity, Microsoft won't introduce more coding changes to foul up these programs? Also, the desktop is not one click away, every time that you want to open up a program, you need to go to the MPI, a completely new screen which is a crap fest as far as visual and organisational effectiveness is concerned. I have been using the final version of Windows 8 since Oct 12 and simply can't stand the MPI. It is an utterly useless piece of crap on a desktop.
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Here's the thing. If you install classic shell, you will boot directly into desktop.

    But it's a third party app, and it's an abomination to install a third party app, you say. Yes, it's an abomination to install a third party app, that's why nobody ever install any third party app ever and everybody always only use what comes with windows and nobody ever change any settings whatsoever.

    And even if you don't install classic shell, desktop is 1 click away. OMG, 1 click is too much work!
    I use Classic Shell and I've tried ModernMix, but that's not the point; these are programs designed to reintroduce something that should not have been removed in the first place. In one of the early iterations of Windows 8 (prior to final release) it was possible to bring back the start button/menu natively. Microsoft immediately changed the coding to remove that option and so we now have to use these third party programs.

    Who is to say that in their stupidity, Microsoft won't introduce more coding changes to foul up these programs? Also, the desktop is not one click away, every time that you want to open up a program, you need to go to the MPI, a completely new screen which is a crap fest as far as visual and organisational effectiveness is concerned. I have been using the final version of Windows 8 since Oct 12 and simply can't stand the MPI. It is an utterly useless piece of crap on a desktop.
    I'm sorry, I've been using windows 8 just as long as you have and I've no problem with it at all. You know what, aren't you glad we live in a world of choice? Downgrade to windows 7. Again, I don't understand this total lack of understanding with choice. You can go back to windows 95 if you want. No one will stop you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    HI there
    No wonder PC sales are dying currently -- nothing to do with Windows 8 or the OS -- it's just the HARDWARE being put in these just seems to be going backwards.

    I've been looking at some "Convertibles" -- guess what -- the reasonably portable versions (anything bigger than 14 inch screen IMO is a no no for real portability) seem to be fitted with CELERON processors for Gawds sake -- I'd want probably an i5 at a minimum on a new piece of kit although if the price was really cheap I probably could get away with a decent i3 processor. Then they fit a SLOW IDE 5400 RPM type 500 GB drive -- I'd want an SSD - especially with a lower powered processor. and then the screen resolution is a stinking 1366 X 768. I'd want at least 1080P HD (1080 x 1920) these days.

    Don't people ever do their marketing properly or have the been listening to GARTNER's again.

    Spec for me is 11.5 or 14 inch NATIVE 1080 X 1920, SSD, Touch (although not mandatory), i5 processor (i3 just about tolerable) USB3 X 2 if poss but certainly 1 USB 3 slot, 8GB RAM (if it's got 6 I don't care as I can swap the memory), HDMI output (whether via a Mini HDMI or standard connector I don't care), and preferably in a convertible form factor (but that's not mandatory either. I don't need a DVD drive either.

    Now Laptops with this type of spec seem to be as rare as Hen's teeth -- what sort of marketing says put an ATOM CELERON in some modern gear or were these the processors they had left over after the popularity of "Netbooks" waned two or 3 years ago.

    Seems even if I WANT to get a new laptop it isn't easy to find one I want.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    These are not workhorse machines. Most of these types of touch/tablet type devices are for emails and web surfing only.. not for Photoshop tasks, video editing, CAD, etc. There are high end builds but you will have to pay more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    I'm sorry, I've been using windows 8 just as long as you have and I've no problem with it at all. You know what, aren't you glad we live in a world of choice? Downgrade to windows 7. Again, I don't understand this total lack of understanding with choice. You can go back to windows 95 if you want. No one will stop you.
    We don't have a choice, as far as Microsoft is concerned, it's the MPI or nothing. The fact that third party providers have to play with the fundamental performance of the OS in order to return what could quite easily have been retained, and therefore given users a choice, is a poor move on Microsoft's part. It's a poor move as far as consumers are concerned.

    I already use Windows 7 as well, but for how long will Windows 7 be available for purchase, so that those who buy new machines can install Windows 7 instead of Windows 8? Eventually, all that you will be able to buy is Windows 8, then there will be no choice. When was the last time you saw Windows 95, XP, Vista sold in any store? Choice? Really?
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    I'm sorry, I've been using windows 8 just as long as you have and I've no problem with it at all. You know what, aren't you glad we live in a world of choice? Downgrade to windows 7. Again, I don't understand this total lack of understanding with choice. You can go back to windows 95 if you want. No one will stop you.
    We don't have a choice, as far as Microsoft is concerned, it's the MPI or nothing. The fact that third party providers have to play with the fundamental performance of the OS in order to return what could quite easily have been retained, and therefore given users a choice, is a poor move on Microsoft's part. It's a poor move as far as consumers are concerned.

    I already use Windows 7 as well, but for how long will Windows 7 be available for purchase, so that those who buy new machines can install Windows 7 instead of Windows 8? Eventually, all that you will be able to buy is Windows 8, then there will be no choice. When was the last time you saw Windows 95, XP, Vista sold in any store? Choice? Really?
    First of all, I seem to recall the same arguments back when MS decided to launch straight into the desktop rather than DOS first.

    The fact is only a hand full of people either love MPI or hate it. Most people just don't care. I've yet to find a single person in real life that I can interact with that feels either way. The only people I can find that either love or hate windows 8 are on the internet.

    You do have a choice. Windows 7 will be supported for years to come. You can either use this time to get use to the new UI or you can continue to bitch about it until the very end. Your choice. There's that word again.

    And don't even pretend like you can't get your hands on windows 95, xp, or vista. I'm sure you're not so nave.
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