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Partition Nightmare

  1. #1

    Posts : 24
    Windows 8 Pro

    Partition Nightmare

    Hello all,

    This is my first post on the forum, so please forgive me if this is in the wrong area.

    I bought a new Dell Inspiron 17R SE 7720 a few weeks ago for work/school. This was my first Windows 8 machine, and I was excited to get everything up and running. One of the first things I like to do after I get all of my programs installed is a system image. I navigated to the Windows 7 File Recovery to start my system image. I began the image, and everything seemed to be going smoothly.

    An hour later, I came back to see how it was doing. I was greeted with a "Failed Backup - Not enough storage" message, error code 0x81000033.

    After a little research, I found out that this has to do with the OEM reserved partition that Dell is placing on their machines - apparently, they are not making it big enough for any backups or system images to be performed.

    After the Windows 7 backup and image failed, I figured I'd give Acronis a try, but received the same error: Not enough space.

    I called Dell, since I have "Premium Phone Support" for a short time after purchasing a new PC, but they weren't much help. I asked to send the laptop back to have the drive partitioned correctly, but they refused, and told me that this was how all of their systems were partitioned - undoubtedly a ploy to get users to purchase the Premium version of their backup and restore program.

    So, I am left with what seems to be two options: 1) Clean install of Windows 8, and 2) Deleting the OEM reserved partition entirely.

    Right now I am leaning toward the clean install, but I am worried about getting the mSATA SSD to function as a dedicated cache again (it utilizes Intel RapidStart and RapidStore) - I've heard horror stories about this.

    Anyways, I was just hoping somebody might have some advice for me, as this makes me a bit nervous.

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  2. #2

    West Auckland
    Posts : 107
    Windows 8 Pro Pack x64

    Try performing the backup to an external storage device.

    Deleting the OEM partitions is a great way to temporarily ruin your life later in the future when you end up needing it. Plus a clean install of windows 8 will create 3 hidden partitions anyway so... effort for nothing if you ask me.
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  3. #3

    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7

    Yah - The System backup is not supposed to be stored in that "recovery" partition, unless you do it the moment you get the machine. That's how they design em, they make the partition just big enough to store the recovery files that came on the thing to begin with.
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  4. #4

    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1

    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Yah - The System backup is not supposed to be stored in that "recovery" partition, unless you do it the moment you get the machine. That's how they design em, they make the partition just big enough to store the recovery files that came on the thing to begin with.
    The Recovery image has already been made by dell, & place in the Recovery Partition.
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  5. #5

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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin

    You obviously want to make an image which includes updates, your own settings, installed programs, etc.

    Try excluding the oem recov partition from the image backup.

    The oem may have cut it so tight there isn't room for vss.

    If Acronis is having trouble even after excluding the oem partition, then try another solution.

    I would use a 3rd party program for that - there are several free ones - macrium free is popular.

    If you are considering buying one - Paragon works very well.
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  6. #6

    Posts : 24
    Windows 8 Pro

    Thank you for the replies!

    Ah, I'm sorry, I didn't make myself clear enough in my first post. I have been trying to perform my image/backup to an external device, with more than enough storage - so the error message doesn't really make sense. It's just everything that I've found online that is telling me that the 40 MB reserved partition is causing the problem. I'm going to try Hiren's with Ghost tonight - I'm hoping that this is a Window's permission issue and that Hiren's will ignore it.

    The trouble-making partition is the second from the left on the first hard disk.
    Click image for larger version
    (I hope this doesn't turn out as tiny as it looks as I'm posting)
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  7. #7

    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1

    I'm going to try Hiren's with Ghost tonight
    Ghost has NO SUPPORT for Windows 8, you would need to use the Ghost replacement SSR Desktop Edition

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  8. #8

    same problem with samung too
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  9. #9

    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin

    You will have to exclude the 40mb partition if you are using vss snapshot technology.

    There may be something similar on samsung - partition must have enough space for vss to function. Even a large partition can be too full.

    Imaging programs will usually have their own snapshot drivers to use instead:

    Click image for larger version

    AOMEI Backupper ? free disk imaging and cloning software, backup and recovery for your computer.

    Alternatively, if you want to image the entire hd - do it from outside windows using boot media which includes the imaging program.
    Last edited by SIW2; 17 May 2013 at 12:53.
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  10. #10

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    Win 8 (64) : Win 7 (64) : Vista (64) : Android JB 4.2 : iOS 6

    There is already an existing recovery partirion on your HD created by the manufacturer. It is always better to have an image backup to an external hd because if you had a hd failure, you may have difficulty accessing the image backup from the same hd.
    Don't forget also to create a USB recovery media just to be on the safe side.
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