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  1. #11


    ok. I get the part about 16GB would be enough RAM for games.

    How about for graphics like PSP 10? Or making & editing videos. He likes making videos but hasn't started editing yet. Maybe he never will but I've heard it takes a lot of RAM and good graphics for rendering. Would 32 GB be used then?

    I've read the i5 is actually sufficient for gaming but the i7 is better rendering etc..


    I've always been told to get graphics card with Nvidia drivers with Intel CPU and Radeon drivers for AMD CPU. Now you're trying to sway me for Radeon drivers on an Intel. Why do you favor the Radeon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    ok. I get the part about 16GB would be enough RAM for games.

    How about for graphics like PSP 10? Or making & editing videos. He likes making videos but hasn't started editing yet. Maybe he never will but I've heard it takes a lot of RAM and good graphics for rendering. Would 32 GB be used then?

    I've read the i5 is actually sufficient for gaming but the i7 is better rendering etc..


    I've always been told to get graphics card with Nvidia drivers with Intel CPU and Radeon drivers for AMD CPU. Now you're trying to sway me for Radeon drivers on an Intel. Why do you favor the Radeon?
    Unless if your son is playing games while also editing video at the same time, then 16 gigs might not be enough. Even for video editing, that's more than plenty.

    I can't say what is better Intel wise specifically, as I'm not an Intel person.

    See, that's not always the general guideline of NVIDIA and Intel and Radeon with AMD. It's just what is best. Currently though, the AMD cards are considered better than NVIDIA or at least less expensive. For example, a Radeon 7850 costs about the same as an NVIDIA GTX 650, even though the Radeon has more stream processors than the NVIDIA card, which in turn means it's a card with more processing oomph. (By the way, price wise it's about 180 for either or)

    So if you had an Intel setup, you'd need a graphics card to balance out the CPU power to prevent any bottlenecking. The AMD would work better for that situation, let alone the face you can go on Newegg.com and find 18 AMD cards around 1-200 dollars and only 8 for NVIDIA cards in that same price range. Also, I believe this site called Tom's Hardware, where they do a bunch of software and hardware benchmarking, they always seem to use an AMD card as they've declared the latest generation of AMD cards better than NVIDIA. Usually less expensive, a smudge or two faster, and I think certain cards will allow an amount of overclocking if you do that.
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  3. #13


    I'm in agreement to skip SLI/Crossfire.

    As far as video cards go, I stick with Nvidia, had fewer problems with them versus the ATI's I've owned over the years. And support in Linux has always been better with Nvidia for me.

    I somehow manage to do video editing on a box with 8GB of RAM.
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  4. #14


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    if you're into high-level video editing, then the more RAM the better.

    but in gaming and video editing, the best CPU you can afford and the best GPU you can afford are far more important. heck, you can do great things in 8 GB of RAM.

    as for CPU, no, an i7 will not be wasted in gaming at all. you'll be able to ratchet up the level of detail and get amazing fluid gameplay. 32 GB would be wasted for the vast majority of games.

    that advice about Nvidia graphics with Intel and AMD graphics with AMD... yeah, let's leave that in the past among the amusing anecdotes. I'm pretty agnostic when it comes to hardware like graphics. Go with bang for the buck. Read some reviews and just buy it whether it's AMD or Nvidia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I'm in agreement to skip SLI/Crossfire.

    As far as video cards go, I stick with Nvidia, had fewer problems with them versus the ATI's I've owned over the years. And support in Linux has always been better with Nvidia for me.

    I somehow manage to do video editing on a box with 8GB of RAM.
    AMD's. ATI got bought out years ago by AMD.

    I've never really had issues with AMD Radeons though in the past. It sometimes comes down to individual OEMs, sometimes not. Personally though, I go with ASUS for well built video card using an AMD chip.
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    Also, I will say that it seems AMD is more oriented for PC gaming as of recent years. They have their own branded RAM they claim is best suited for gaming, they have APUs that are better right off the bat for gaming than an Intel counterpart, they have graphics cards which I believe are better bang for buck, let alone the fact they will be in the next Xbox and Playstation.
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    AMD's. ATI got bought out years ago by AMD.
    But in my case, the cards were ATI radeons as I haven't bought one in years. Last 5 video cards have all been Nvidia. Some guys at work have tried the AMD Radeons and they have all come back to Nvidia. I live vicariously through them.
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  9. #19


    Suggestions:

    You've picked a 4 channel RAM kit, for a Socket 2011 system. It'll probably work on a dual channel system like a Z77 board, but it's absurd if the primary goal is gaming. You could get 16GB (2X8) of DDR3-1600 for around $100. (Savings: maybe $150.)

    I'm not sure how much better an I7-3770k would be for gaming than an I5-3570k. You could save around $100 there.

    If you put those funds into a GTX 670 or a Radeon HD 7970, the net result would be a superior gaming system.

    What are you going with for a power supply?
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
    Suggestions:

    You've picked a 4 channel RAM kit, for a Socket 2011 system. It'll probably work on a dual channel system like a Z77 board, but it's absurd if the primary goal is gaming. You could get 16GB (2X8) of DDR3-1600 for around $100. (Savings: maybe $150.)

    I'm not sure how much better an I7-3770k would be for gaming than an I5-3570k. You could save around $100 there.

    If you put those funds into a GTX 670 or a Radeon HD 7970, the net result would be a superior gaming system.

    What are you going with for a power supply?
    You've lost me because I thought the ASUS P8Z77-V LK is a LGA1155 mobo.
    In picking timing I chose some that matched 9•9•9•24 and 1.5v like Crucial Memory picker.

    Will CL9 or C10 RAM both work on this mobo ?

    Guess I'll go with this card and reduce RAM to 16GB
    ASUS GTX670-DC2-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Newegg.com

    Using a 750w PS
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