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Just bought a computer with Windows 8...its...interesting?

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by BRKING View Post
    we settled on the Sony Vaio SVJ20215CXB.

    However, here are some problems we have:
    1. How do we make the apps split the screen so that we can multitask? (like work on a word doc and check email at the same time?)

    2. there are a few pc settings but have to go back to the old desktop to find the rest of the settings. Likewise with documents, if you want a folder to store documents you have to save them on the old desktop).

    3. When viewing photos in W8. How do we make them smaller?

    7. theres no way there are 50,000 viewable. Are we missing a feature that shows us more?

    9. My final complaint is that Microsoft did not release a tutorial video when we first turned on Windows 8.
    I see that you have a touchscreen?

    1) To split the screen for multitasking:
    with a mouse, move the cursor to the top edge of the screen, hold down the primary mouse button and then drag the app to the side of the screen. then open the start screen again and go to desktop. so them running side by side should look like this.

    with a touchscreen, you do the same thing but only with your finger. put your finger on the top edge of the screen, then drag your to the side of the screen that you want the app. then bring up the start screen to set what's on your desktop side.
    Click image for larger version

    Now, you can drag the bar in the middle with either the mouse or your finger and you see a fuller version of the app and then a thumbnail view of your desktop apps. with the mouse, you can also double-click on the bar to quickly switch proportions.

    Click image for larger version

    After the 8.1 update, you'll be able to arbitrarily set the split.

    2) The Windows 8.1 update will also be moving more settings to the Metro side so that the split control panel is not so weird.

    3) for the Photo app, if you don't "open" the picture, you should see a filmstrip of your pictures to allow you to see more pictures at once.

    Click image for larger version

    7) make sure these settings are turned OFF in the settings for the store app. also remember that the charms bar is contextual. so once you have the store app open, the settings on the charms bar is the settings for the store app.

    Click image for larger version

    I think they need to rephrase these sentences. Because to me, it reads like this... I have US English as my default language. So naturally, I read these sentences and it seems like I would want them ON in order to only show English languages. BUT NO!!!! If you set these to ON, you will only see about 20% of apps in the windows store. I didn't realize this until I set up my father's computer and his PC couldn't see any of the apps my PC could see. It took me quite awhile to see how I set up his computer different.

    9) yes, there should be a better tutorial on how to use the OS. or maybe provide some sort of text pop-ups to point people in the right direction.

    I think what Microsoft believes is that there's really only 4 things to know with a touchscreen since there's 4 sides to a monitor. they want you to swipe from each side to see what happens. the charms bar is contextual so it's always adjusting to the app in question. so you always know where the search is. you always know where the settings is. rather than finding it on the menu bar of a traditional app. the swipes from the top or bottom are the same as the right-mouse click and will always bring up the context menu. so with every app, as long as you swipe from all 4 sides and right-click every app to see what the options are, that's really all there is to know.

    like I'll take the Wikipedia app as an example (it's a fabulous app by the way; but they need to improve table support). if you read the reviews, people are confused how to search for things because there's no traditional address bar. but it's in the charms bar. remember, it's contextual. so if you're running Wikipedia, the search will search in Wikipedia. it's just that people are so used to a traditional bar that's always on the screen.

    another issue is people are so used to other systems and it takes time to adapt. for example, to copy and paste text on iOS, you have to hold down the button and wait and then do your operation. but with windows 8, it's all quick taps. you tap it, move the bar to cover the text you want and then tap again to copy/paste. tap, tap, tap. but if you're used to iOS, you'll be confused.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by BRKING View Post
    we settled on the Sony Vaio SVJ20215CXB.


    7) make sure these settings are turned OFF in the settings for the store app. also remember that the charms bar is contextual. so once you have the store app open, the settings on the charms bar is the settings for the store app.

    Click image for larger version

    I think they need to rephrase these sentences. Because to me, it reads like this... I have US English as my default language. So naturally, I read these sentences and it seems like I would want them ON in order to only show English languages. BUT NO!!!! If you set these to ON, you will only see about 20% of apps in the windows store. I didn't realize this until I set up my father's computer and his PC couldn't see any of the apps my PC could see. It took me quite awhile to see how I set up his computer different.
    thanks so much for the detailed help for the side by side app display. I will try these out tomorrow, too tired of playing with W8 to try tonight.

    And for your suggestion for the app store, I turned both off and it still has the same amount of apps as before. (example: In the Entertainment section there are 100 apps in the Top Free section and 100 apps in the New Release section) and that is the same number as before your suggestion.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    don't go to the "top ___" sections. that's a ranked section that's a fixed amount. you have to actually browse through the entire section. so if you want to browse games, you have to click/tap on Games. not click on top paid or top free or new releases.
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  4. #14


    Quote Originally Posted by BRKING View Post
    Does anyone know how to make a document a tile on the Metro start menu?

    Also, there is a option in the settings side bar for Notifications (1 hour, 3 hours, etc..). Anyone know where these notifications are?

    thanks
    "Pin to Start" Files in Windows 8



    4. How do we make the address bar in IE10 always appear? I don't like the constant swiping up inorder to make it appear and likewise swiping down to make my tabs appear. Its very touch-unfriendly.

    This doesn't make it forever visible but is easier than swiping or focusing mouse. Since you are going to be typing anyway:

    Press F6 for address bar to appear ... type away

    Or you could Press F4 instead if you want address bar to appear with previous entries to click on as well
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    don't go to the "top ___" sections. that's a ranked section that's a fixed amount. you have to actually browse through the entire section. so if you want to browse games, you have to click/tap on Games. not click on top paid or top free or new releases.
    Thanks. Now I see all of them. That is just another example of MS not thinking it through. There was no way in the world I would have ever thought to click the text when all the focus is on the tile boxes (New releases, top free, top paid, etc..)
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BRKING View Post
    Does anyone know how to make a document a tile on the Metro start menu?

    Also, there is a option in the settings side bar for Notifications (1 hour, 3 hours, etc..). Anyone know where these notifications are?

    thanks


    "Pin to Start" Files in Windows 8



    4. How do we make the address bar in IE10 always appear? I don't like the constant swiping up inorder to make it appear and likewise swiping down to make my tabs appear. Its very touch-unfriendly.

    This doesn't make it forever visible but is easier than swiping or focusing mouse. Since you are going to be typing anyway:

    Press F6 for address bar to appear ... type away

    Or you could Press F4 instead if you want address bar to appear with previous entries to click on as well
    Thanks but the way you said wont work because right off the bat you said its not forever. I did find a solution on my own and its ridiculous that MS doesn't tell you how to do it.

    1) On the metro screen, right click on the standard Word or Excel tile.
    2) Click open file location
    3) This opens the location in Explorer on the old desktop
    4) For the document you want to make a W8 tile, right click on it and make it a shortcut
    5) Now click and drag the word/excel/powerpoint doc (that you made a shortcut) and drag it to the folder that houses the standard Word tile on Metro
    6) Presto, individual word docs are now tiles (note: if you don't see it, go to the "All Apps" section (bottom right of screen) and look in the app list and pin it to your start screen

    How ridiculous is it that this is not explained?
    Last edited by BRKING; 30 Apr 2013 at 00:25. Reason: added/revised steps 4-6
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  7. #17


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    somewhere between steps 3 and 4, I'm lost... when you open file location, it just opens up the folder containing shortcuts. are we supposed to copy the files to this shortcuts folder?
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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    somewhere between steps 3 and 4, I'm lost... when you open file location, it just opens up the folder containing shortcuts. are we supposed to copy the files to this shortcuts folder?
    Right, if you right click on a tile in the Metro desktop and at the bottom of the screen there is a button to "Open File Location". Clicking that will open up the File Explorer on the old desktop screen. Now, copy or drag a file (that isn't on the Metro desktop) into that file explorer folder that opened.
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by BRKING View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BRKING View Post
    Does anyone know how to make a document a tile on the Metro start menu?

    Also, there is a option in the settings side bar for Notifications (1 hour, 3 hours, etc..). Anyone know where these notifications are?

    thanks


    "Pin to Start" Files in Windows 8



    4. How do we make the address bar in IE10 always appear? I don't like the constant swiping up inorder to make it appear and likewise swiping down to make my tabs appear. Its very touch-unfriendly.

    This doesn't make it forever visible but is easier than swiping or focusing mouse. Since you are going to be typing anyway:

    Press F6 for address bar to appear ... type away —

    Or you could Press F4 instead if you want address bar to appear with previous entries to click on as well
    Thanks but the way you said wont work because right off the bat you said its not forever. I did find a solution on my own and its ridiculous that MS doesn't tell you how to do it.

    1) On the metro screen, right click on the standard Word or Excel tile.
    2) Click open file location
    3) This opens the location in Explorer on the old desktop
    4) Click and drag the word/excel/powerpoint docs from your old desktop and drag them to the folder that houses the standard Word tile
    5) Presto, individual word docs are now tiles

    How ridiculous is it that this is not explained?
    BRKING — Wouldn't it be much easier to right click a file or folder and select Pin to Start than do it all that dragging?
    That's why I posted this link for you. "Pin to Start" Files in Windows 8 If that link doesn't work this will "Pin to Start" Files in Windows 8



    What's the solution to keeping the address bar always visible? Not that I need to know because I always use F4 or F6 because it sets focus of the cursor right into the address bar when I press .
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BRKING View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post



    "Pin to Start" Files in Windows 8



    4. How do we make the address bar in IE10 always appear? I don't like the constant swiping up inorder to make it appear and likewise swiping down to make my tabs appear. Its very touch-unfriendly.

    This doesn't make it forever visible but is easier than swiping or focusing mouse. Since you are going to be typing anyway:

    Press F6 for address bar to appear ... type away

    Or you could Press F4 instead if you want address bar to appear with previous entries to click on as well
    Thanks but the way you said wont work because right off the bat you said its not forever. I did find a solution on my own and its ridiculous that MS doesn't tell you how to do it.

    1) On the metro screen, right click on the standard Word or Excel tile.
    2) Click open file location
    3) This opens the location in Explorer on the old desktop
    4) Click and drag the word/excel/powerpoint docs from your old desktop and drag them to the folder that houses the standard Word tile
    5) Presto, individual word docs are now tiles

    How ridiculous is it that this is not explained?
    BRKING Wouldn't it be much easier to right click a file or folder and select Pin to Start than do it all that dragging?
    That's why I posted this link for you. "Pin to Start" Files in Windows 8 If that link doesn't work this will "Pin to Start" Files in Windows 8



    What's the solution to keeping the address bar always visible? Not that I need to know because I always use F4 or F6 because it sets focus of the cursor right into the address bar when I press .
    1) When I right click on a word or excel document I don't have a "Pin to Start" option viewable. It looks like I have to alter the registry to do this, correct? If that's the case I am not going to do that because I'm not comfortable enough to do that. It should be a standard feature. Most people are not going to edit their registry for that. Just my opinion.


    2) Looks as if there isn't a way to make the address bar always viewable.
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