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The Lord Giveth and The Lord Taketh away !!

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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    The Lord Giveth and The Lord Taketh away !!


    Hi there

    I just don't understand Ms -- on the one hand they've really improved the start screen's usability (new W8 build - X-64 build 9369 - I've posted a thread on this too in the Forum) but on the other hand they screw something up royally such as the new File explorer.

    It's is an ABOMINATION to use with a mouse -- you'd be FOREVER scrolling / clicking. (Fortunately the Old file explorer aka windows explorer still exists).

    Here's a screenshot of the new file explorer -- for a DESKTOP this must be the biggest piece of JUNK I've ever seen --and I've seen a lot of it.

    Note also if your screen resolution is too low it won't even open -- example shown when I run it in a window in a VM -- on full screen it will work 2nd screen shot. However each blue box when you click on it opens again separately in a NEW full screen Window -- This is almost the Ultimate Horror of Horrors on a desktop.

    For Touch on a tablet or smartphone -- possibly -- but a desktop with a MOUSE --forget it.

    For a desktop the old method with an expanding TREE structure is fine. How for example does Ms expect you to Cut and Paste between different drives easily with this POS. You either need to be able to see the classic windows explorer tree structure or at least be able to see what's on the SOURCE and TARGET drives TOGETHER to move / copy stuff properly.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Thanks for the update.

    They seem to be viewing traditional pc users as an afterthought, something unfortunate that has to be grudgingly catered to in a basic fashion

    Who knows, they may be right.

    Wait for the loopy ones to proclaim it is only a testing build, and Blue will be the second coming when released.
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    Yeah, I agree. They made everything bigger (tile mode) in favor of people using a touchscreen. For touchscreen users, the bigger, the better. There is no way they can use the "TREE" structure explorer with this st*p*d tile mode. With this format, you always have to go back and forth while you are navigating thru it. And what I don't understand is why they designed the back button too small and located on top left (not middle left). Sucks big time for mouse users.
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    MS needs to be resurrected.
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    I don't even bother looking at any of these builds. I don't trust the sources anyway, but I'll let you fellas shake out this stuff and will wait till it's actually released.
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I don't even bother looking at any of these builds. I don't trust the sources anyway, but I'll let you fellas shake out this stuff and will wait till it's actually released.
    Hi there
    passes the time OK. Actually the provenance of these builds is usually OK -- and if some of the complaints get back to Ms they might improve stuff they missed in their "Normal" testing.

    It wouldn't surprise me at all if these leaked builds had some sort of quiet tacit approval from Ms anyway even if their public stance is one of "I don't know anything about these".

    Lets face it -- a load of us on these Forums are quite likely to have a lot of applications and hardware that Ms developers won't have -- and we can publish our REAL conclusions and feelings --Ms Employees / Testers might also have to "Tow the company line" to keep their jobs or contracts.

    Running these as VM's doesn't cause any problems even if the builds aren't legit either. Around 15 - 20 mins to download from a Torrent site and a further 10 mins to install the VM -- so no real time wasted. (advantage of nice mega fast broadband). !! With the last build and around 110 seeders I was getting download speeds of over 15 MB/s -- not bad from a torrent site.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Jimbo45,

    I understand what you are getting at. I just wish these were officially made available. Could achieve those same results.

    At work, i don't want our logs showing me visiting torrent sites. I also don't want to download something and have the company face some type of ramifications because our NAT'd public IP was transferred data to/from some site.

    Wish I had that type of bandwidth available. At home, I might get 1.8MB/sec tops, at work it's around 3.5MB/sec.
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    How about something like this?

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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    @Mdmd

    You *might* have missed the point here
    It's not just showing folders on the "C" drive -- but say I want to view folders on C ,D, E, F, G and H drives as well. You can't get this on the SAME screen with the new application.

    Of course tablet users won't be bothered with this type of stuff - until they start having peripherals which allow them to connect several drives / USB sticks -- then they will understand what I'm getting at here.

    With the classical "Tree" structure -- you can see ALL the drives in one window and just expand the relevant tree.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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