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Windows 8 app store is the Achille's heal or cruel joke

  1. #31


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    You might like to think it is a tiny number and doesn't resonate with anyone.

    Seems to me it is a very significant number and resonates with many.

    This is Forum.

    It is not an appreciation society
    .
    Exactly. +1

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  2. #32


    To the OP. Firstly I apologize for not welcoming you back to Eight Forums as I usually do.

    Welcome back to Eight Forums.

    Secondly I asked the question for I don't know you. I was trying to get some background. In checking your profile you're anonymous, which is ok, but it doesn't give me any info. You also don't have 8 listed as an OS, which is why I asked about using 8.

    I have to agree with what dirtyvu just posted and others have mentioned it also. Your thread question has a double negative connotation, so therefore there can only be a negative answer. I feel it attracts negativity. Then you go on a rant to negatively criticize 8 in other aspects with nothing but your opinion, which is ok, but not with both barrels blasting multiple times as you did. I have to say that it's trolling, but hey, I'm not the judge or sheriff around here.

    Again, welcome back. I sincerely hope you enjoy your stay.
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  3. #33


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I have to agree with what dirtyvu just posted and others have mentioned it also. Your thread question has a double negative connotation, so therefore there can only be a negative answer. I feel it attracts negativity. Then you go on a rant to negatively criticize 8 in other aspects with nothing but your opinion, which is ok, but not with both barrels blasting multiple times as you did. I have to say that it's trolling, but hey, I'm not the judge or sheriff around here.
    Wow, maybe the rules have relaxed a bit here. I was under the impression people had a right to express their opinions without being called names. Especially if the opinions were fairly accurate.

    And it's not like the OP has never used the OS...

    Quote Originally Posted by KarterJK View Post
    I have 6 computers, I happen to be using my Windows 8 tablet at the moment (for this forum)...

    I have had this tablet about 4 months and it came with Windows 8 which was upgraded to Pro. I even have a copy of Windows 8 Consumer Preview still load in a dual boot machine.
    Wow. Welcome to eightforums!
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  4. #34


    Posts : 41
    Windows 7 - Linux (Ubuntu & Zorin) - XP


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    To the OP. Firstly I apologize for not welcoming you back to Eight Forums as I usually do.

    Welcome back to Eight Forums.

    Secondly I asked the question for I don't know you. I was trying to get some background. In checking your profile you're anonymous, which is ok, but it doesn't give me any info. You also don't have 8 listed as an OS, which is why I asked about using 8.

    I have to agree with what dirtyvu just posted and others have mentioned it also. Your thread question has a double negative connotation, so therefore there can only be a negative answer. I feel it attracts negativity. Then you go on a rant to negatively criticize 8 in other aspects with nothing but your opinion, which is ok, but not with both barrels blasting multiple times as you did. I have to say that it's trolling, but hey, I'm not the judge or sheriff around here.

    Again, welcome back. I sincerely hope you enjoy your stay.
    Gee, how positively pleasant and civil of you, Darling, especially the name calling part. Really, I would have thought someone with your dizzying intellect could come up with something a bit more original.

    Is either yours, or dirtyvu, or others approval necessary on what I choose to comment on and how? The problem I have with people like you, is you seem to take criticism personal and resort to name calling to emphasize your self imposed superiority. We get it! That you are great supporters of this OS, what you fail to recognize, is I am a supporter of it also, why else would i be so upset with it. But that doesn't change the fact it needs improving, and I will continue to rant about it's short comings.

    Perhaps you need to re-read my post(s), maybe you need to learn to respect others opinions, I don't know about you, but I hope MS changes their game plan, because I am tired of trying to defend them, I re-ask my original question....

    If Microsoft is not making an effort to improve things, then why should we support it ?

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  5. #35


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Does this forum really need another thread about how bad posters think win8 is ,especially one that according to there computer specs ,isn't even using win8 ,having said that i to find the app store hard to find things i might like ,so i stopped looking !
    I totally agree with Spyderbite
    Hi there
    PLEASE PEOPLE read the O/P's question and then answer.

    The question is about the APP STORE -- not about Windows 8 -- there isn't any specific reason as to why the app store should only be restricted to Windows 8 -- Ms might use it for XBOX, Windows 8 phone or even previous versions of Windows.

    I've posted my thoughts on the app store earlier in the thread -- and my remarks are for Windows apps rather than mobile phone / tablet ones.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #36


    It is how one interprets the OP. Seems to be a contention in itself, in this thread!
    Quote: " Windows 8, doesn't even come with the media center. To me it's almost like a cruel joke. They reduce or bury functionality, strip away standard components, and then make it more difficult to use.
    They then wonder why it hasn't been successful. I am almost shocked that it is even selling. When I think about it, there isn't a whole lot about it to like. Surface tablets aren't even 3G or 4G, so why should we embrace this? "


    I see this as a direct criticism of the OS, although the Store is the bulk of the text??
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  7. #37


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    @DaveHC

    I know this post is OT but I had to answer the Windows Media center point.

    Actually Media center is an increasing irrelevance -- you don't often need things like TV tuners in a PC any more - with decent Internet connections there's enough TV streaming content out on the internet and plenty of FREE multi-media players like VLC which can handle almost every known VIDEO and AUDIO codec known to man (and my dog !!).

    For example using a UK proxy it's easy to get an application that shows loads of FREE channels such as : screenshot enc. Quality of stream is fine too even on a large screen. All you need is a decent internet connection.

    There's loads more free TV streams all over the place.

    Who needs WMC.

    As for reduced functionality -- I prefer a lean mean OS and then add on such bits as I need -- that's what a lot of Linux users tend to do -- some of the Linux distros also are filled with a load of Bloatware too which makes them perhaps "even more Windows than Windows".

    All I need the OS to do is to provide the GUI, a command line interface, security, and a file system. Anything else I can install afterwards - even the browser. In fact even the GUI in an ideal situation should be user installable - like GNOME or KDE in Linux --users choice of GUI. However Windows comes from a different background so that part of the OS is likely to stay fixed.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #38


    Maybe MS have been kind up to now. With built in items such as Wordpad, Paint and even the defragger.
    Perhaps even those items will vanish over time and we will have - - an OS, as Jimbo suggests. I am sure that, like myself, most users on these pages have always loaded there own software which, in their opinion, performs better than the built in items.
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  9. #39


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    Windows 7 - Linux (Ubuntu & Zorin) - XP


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo
    Hi there@DaveHC


    I know this post is OT but I had to answer the Windows Media center point.


    Actually Media center is an increasing irrelevance -- you don't often need things like TV tuners in a PC any more - with decent Internet connections there's enough TV streaming content out on the internet and plenty of FREE multi-media players like VLC which can handle almost every known VIDEO and AUDIO codec known to man (and my dog !!).


    For example using a UK proxy it's easy to get an application that shows loads of FREE channels such as : screenshot enc. Quality of stream is fine too even on a large screen. All you need is a decent internet connection.


    There's loads more free TV streams all over the place.


    Who needs WMC.




    Cheers
    jimbo
    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    Maybe MS have been kind up to now. With built in items such as Wordpad, Paint and even the defragger.
    Perhaps even those items will vanish over time and we will have - - an OS, as Jimbo suggests. I am sure that, like myself, most users on these pages have always loaded there own software which, in their opinion, performs better than the built in items.
    Exactly why I said it's "like a cruel joke", why offer it free in previous versions, then strip from the next.
    "Oh, only last years model came with tires"

    As for WMC, hop on over to My Movies - Home and see if they think it irrelevant, then to charge $60.00 plus to upgrade to Pro for the Media Center. It's as though they're penalizing you for spending time and money developing your system around it. I argued with "My Movies" about their strategy of developing their whole product around something I think will be dropped. I argued with Netfix over their embracing Silverlight, and sure as hell Microsoft dropped it, and no longer develops it.

    Lean and mean is great. But they should offer the modules you want to use.

    The only thing, I have come to trust with Microsoft, is not to trust in them. Loyalty means nothing to them, isn't that refreshing.
    Perhaps it is time to dump them.
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  10. #40


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    Loyalty to any typical business is a big mistake. Do you for one minute think that a Bank you might have had an account with for YEARS and YEARS gives you a better deal than someone who has just walked into the branch five minutes ago -- no way -- same with Phone contracts etc.

    Design your system on what YOU want to use rather than dubious products that probably a 5 year old could see weren't viable in the long term.

    I'm happy to use Ms products --but I use on MY terms -- such as keeping an old version of Office 2010 rather than being suckered into their Office 365 subscription model.

    There's plenty of alternatives out there --but you also run the risk when using open source software that after a while a product you've designed your system around is no longer supported by the developer -- not because the product is bad but simply the developer just gets fed up or wants to move on and do something else.

    The only time loyalty pays off is if you are a regular customer to a small family run type business --say a Restaurant or Family run Pub.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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