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Anyone figured out the disappearing restore points problem

  1. #61


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    My size just jumped from 130 MBs to 156 MBs without my doing anything.

    Still had 6 points though.

    Thats ok.
    It can only get so big.
    Something is working in the background automatically.

    What, I don't know.

    Someone else will have to help with this background process.

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    Last edited by David Bailey; 23 Apr 2013 at 22:01.

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  2. #62


    Posts : 511
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    JeffL, I don't know if this has anything to do with your problem or not. I have discovered that if you go to Device Manager and click on View and select show hidden devices, you see Storage Volume Shadow Copies. Under that I have 36 Generic storages volumes. Most are grayed out. I only have 3 restore points. I have no idea what this means. Maybe it will have some effect on what you are trying to do.

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  3. #63


    Quote Originally Posted by Clint View Post
    JeffL, I don't know if this has anything to do with your problem or not. I have discovered that if you go to Device Manager and click on View and select show hidden devices, you see Storage Volume Shadow Copies. Under that I have 36 Generic storages volumes. Most are grayed out. I only have 3 restore points. I have no idea what this means. Maybe it will have some effect on what you are trying to do.
    I have no idea what that is. I have 11 Generic volumes. I opened the Storage Volume Shadow Copies (above Generic storage volumes), and I have 255 Generic Volume Shadow Copies. I don't see anything greyed out.

    Edit, I take that back, 40 are greyed out, it's very subtle. Checking the properties, I see, if not greyed out: "This device is working properly", if greyed out: "Currently, this hardware device is not connected to the computer. (Code 45) To fix this problem, reconnect this hardware device to the computer".
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  4. #64


    Posts : 511
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    I wonder if you remove the grayed out ones, if your restore points size would get smaller.
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  5. #65


    Looks like the problem has mostly been solved, however I have just had a setback.
    I used System Restore to go back to a saved restore point, and got the following messages:
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    “System Restore did not complete successfully.

    System Restore could not access a file.

    This is probably because an anti virus programme is running on this computer. Temporarily disable your anti virus programme and retrySystem Restore. An unexpected error occurred during System Restore (0x80070005)

    You can try System Restore again and select a different restore point. If you continue to see this error you can try an advanced recovery method.”
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I use Microsoft Defender which comes with Win8, did not expect one MS programme to be incompatible with another. Anyway, switching Defender off did not cure the issue. Also, there is no reference on the error message as to what the “advanced recovery method” is.

    Has anyone any ideas?
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  6. #66


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Advanced recovery means refresh or reset the machine instead of system restore.

    Both are quite traumatic.

    As a workaround, you could use the free shadow explorer and fish out what you want from your shadow copies.


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  7. #67


    Quote Originally Posted by lumbco View Post
    Looks like the problem has mostly been solved, however I have just had a setback.
    I used System Restore to go back to a saved restore point, and got the following messages:
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    “System Restore did not complete successfully.

    System Restore could not access a file.

    This is probably because an anti virus programme is running on this computer. Temporarily disable your anti virus programme and retrySystem Restore. An unexpected error occurred during System Restore (0x80070005)

    You can try System Restore again and select a different restore point. If you continue to see this error you can try an advanced recovery method.”
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I use Microsoft Defender which comes with Win8, did not expect one MS programme to be incompatible with another. Anyway, switching Defender off did not cure the issue. Also, there is no reference on the error message as to what the “advanced recovery method” is.

    Has anyone any ideas?
    If you don't already know this... If you are running Norton A/V, you must turn off Product Tamper Protection. It's one of the misc. settings. I'm no longer running Norton, since Windows Defender does the job now.
    Last edited by JeffL; 28 Apr 2013 at 17:56.
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  8. #68


    Just reread your message and see you are using Windows Defender. FWIW, As I said, I'm also using Window Defender, and I did a restore a few days ago. I didn't turn anything off. I got a message saying that it was successful, for for some reason, it didn't fix what I wanted to fix *, so I did an unrestore.

    * Somehow, in a moment of confusion, I turned on system protection for the PRB Image partition. I turned if off as soon as I realized what I'd done, but from that point on, the command VSSADMIN LIST ShadowStorage, shows the stats for that partition. I can't get rid of it with VSSADMIN DELETE ShadowStorage because that's not a valid command on my system. It doesn't do any harm, but I'm very anal, and just didn't want to see it I thought a SR to before I did it would get rid of it, but it didn't.
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  9. #69

    If you do want more system restore points this will do it


    Hi Guys,
    I have posted this elsewhere on this forum but it does fit well here.
    After many hours of trial and error I finally found a way to automatically create system restore points in Windows 8 using the task scheduler. All of this information was gathered from web posts by others but this is the combination which works for me.

    You must first create a .vbs script file.

    To create the script just cut and paste the text below into notepad. Then save the file as SR.vbs in C:\Users\Mike (Of course you must substitute "your user name" for "Mike")


    If WScript.Arguments.Count = 0 Then
    Set oShell = CreateObject("Shell.Application")
    oShell.ShellExecute "wscript.exe", """" & WScript.ScriptFullName & """ Run", , "runas", 1
    Else
    Set oWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
    oWshShell.Popup "Creating a SystemRestore point. Please wait.", 2, "System Restore", 0
    swinmgmts = "winmgmts:\\.\root\default:Systemrestore"
    GetObject(swinmgmts).CreateRestorePoint "Scheduled Restore Point", 0, 100
    'MsgBox "System Restore Point created", 0, "System Restore"
    End If


    Then you have to create a registry DWORD (32 bit) VALUE entry (using regedit.exe by way of RUN) with the text
    SystemRestorePointCreationFrequency
    under the registry key
    HKeyLocalMachine\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore
    The DWORD (32 bit) VALUE needs to be typed into the "System Restore" folder itself (not in any of it's sub folders). I then set the value of SystemRestorePointCreationFrequency to 0 ( I think 0 is the default anyway). When you exit the registry by clicking "X" the changes you have made are automatically saved.

    Now you need to program your task scheduler to run the SR.vbs script at the desired intervals. Create a "Basic Task" in the task scheduler to do this.
    On the General tab type in a name and description of your choice for the task. Make sure you check only the "run whether user is logged on or not" and "Run with highest privileges" options.
    On the Triggers tab select new and set the time you want to use and check only the "Enabled" option.
    On the Actions tab select new and then select "Start a program" in the drop-down box. Under "Program/script" type in C:\Windows\System32\wscript.exe Then in the "Add arguments (optional): box type in C:\Users\Mike\SR.vbs
    In the Conditions tab just make sure that none of the options are checked.
    In the Settings tab you want only "Allow task to be run on demand" and "Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed" options to be checked. In the drop-down box at the bottom select "Run a new instance in parallel".
    The History tab has no adjustments so you are done.

    I know this sounds like a lot to do but is really not that complicated and, to me at least, was well worth the effort.
    I now get two system restore points created automatically for me each and every day.
    Hope this is of some use to someone out there.
    Mike Blevins
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  10. #70


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I finally was able to do a successful System Restore, one my Main Internet/Business/Blogging PC. This was the one I updated from Windows 7 which was dot-nethosed.

    My Media computer was a fresh install to a drive that had no OS, I had Windows 7 on another drive. I was not sure of it when I first posted a while back, but now I am - That Windows 8 on that machine spans all of the drives, while the Windows 8 on the machine I upgraded from 7 resides only in the drive that contained the OS I Upgraded.

    This is why, I believe my System Restore Points vanished on the Media System: Because all of the original restore points had been made while the system was monitoring ALL of the drives. Later, I had shut off System Restore on all but the main Windows 8 drive. and so the only restore point which was available continually failed to properly finalize because all of the backup data it was looking for was on the now-removed D and E Drives. On that machine, I now have all of the restore points I have made since the last time I tried it- I was able to repair whatever my problem was when I was trying to do that restore. I think if I am seeing my points and they are not vanishing, it will probably work, because now it is isolating all of the restore data on one drive.
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