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Anyone figured out the disappearing restore points problem

  1. #41


    Update on my attempt to use Task Scheduler to create a restore point - a failure.

    The run result reported "The system cannot find the file specified", so I have not set the schedule properly. I searched the net but cannot find any instructions on how to schedule restore points.

    At the moment the four manual restore points that I had listed on the 12th April are still listed, so I have not lost any more.

    Also, more than 7 days have elapsed since the last manual restore point and still no system restore points have been added.

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  2. #42


    Quote Originally Posted by lumbco View Post
    Update on my attempt to use Task Scheduler to create a restore point - a failure.

    The run result reported "The system cannot find the file specified", so I have not set the schedule properly. I searched the net but cannot find any instructions on how to schedule restore points.

    At the moment the four manual restore points that I had listed on the 12th April are still listed, so I have not lost any more.

    Also, more than 7 days have elapsed since the last manual restore point and still no system restore points have been added.
    The best I can do is give you the setting for mine, the way it was originally set up. I haven't made any changes to it. The task runs every day, but I haven't had 7 days go by yet. It would have been 7 days today, or tomorrow, but I got a Java update on the 17th that added a restore point.

    Meanwhile, I'm down to 3 shadow copies (restore points), and very close to hitting my allocated amount (18 GB). I suspect it will get down to 2 restore points, then hopefully the usage growth will stabilize.

    OK, Here are my task scheduler settings, hope it helps:

    Task Scheduler Library -> Microsoft -> Windows -> SystemRestore

    General Tab:
    Name: SR
    Location: \Microsoft\Windows\SystemRestore
    Author: Microsoft Corporation
    Description: This task creates regular system protection points

    Run wheter user is logged on or not
    Configure for Windows 8

    Triggers Tab: none

    Actions Tab:
    Start a program: %windir%\system32\srtasks.exe ExecuteScheduledSPPCreation

    Conditions Tab:
    Idle: Start the task only if the computer is idle for 10 minutes
    Wait for idle for 1 hours
    Stop if the computer ceases to be idle
    Power: Start the task only if the computer is on AC power

    Settings Tab:
    Allow task to be run on demand
    Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed
    Stop the task if it runs longer thatn 3 days
    If the running task does not end when requested, force it to stop
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  3. #43


    Quote Originally Posted by JeffL View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lumbco View Post
    Update on my attempt to use Task Scheduler to create a restore point - a failure.

    The run result reported "The system cannot find the file specified", so I have not set the schedule properly. I searched the net but cannot find any instructions on how to schedule restore points.

    At the moment the four manual restore points that I had listed on the 12th April are still listed, so I have not lost any more.

    Also, more than 7 days have elapsed since the last manual restore point and still no system restore points have been added.
    The best I can do is give you the setting for mine, the way it was originally set up. I haven't made any changes to it. The task runs every day, but I haven't had 7 days go by yet. It would have been 7 days today, or tomorrow, but I got a Java update on the 17th that added a restore point.

    Meanwhile, I'm down to 3 shadow copies (restore points), and very close to hitting my allocated amount (18 GB). I suspect it will get down to 2 restore points, then hopefully the usage growth will stabilize.

    OK, Here are my task scheduler settings, hope it helps:

    Task Scheduler Library -> Microsoft -> Windows -> SystemRestore

    General Tab:
    Name: SR
    Location: \Microsoft\Windows\SystemRestore
    Author: Microsoft Corporation
    Description: This task creates regular system protection points

    Run wheter user is logged on or not
    Configure for Windows 8

    Triggers Tab: none

    Actions Tab:
    Start a program: %windir%\system32\srtasks.exe ExecuteScheduledSPPCreation

    Conditions Tab:
    Idle: Start the task only if the computer is idle for 10 minutes
    Wait for idle for 1 hours
    Stop if the computer ceases to be idle
    Power: Start the task only if the computer is on AC power

    Settings Tab:
    Allow task to be run on demand
    Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed
    Stop the task if it runs longer thatn 3 days
    If the running task does not end when requested, force it to stop
    Thanks for your settings, I have now duplicated them on my PC.

    I will now wait a few days when hopefully it will generate a system restore point.

    As of this morning the 22nd I still have my four manual restore points, the latest being the 12th April.

    Current usage is reported as 2.69 GB. Disc storage usage is set to 10% which equals 11.18 GB. This seems wasteful but I do not know what the setting should be.
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  4. #44


    [QUOTE=lumbco;224243][QUOTE=JeffL;223445]
    Quote Originally Posted by lumbco View Post
    Current usage is reported as 2.69 GB. Disc storage usage is set to 10% which equals 11.18 GB. This seems wasteful but I do not know what the setting should be.
    Your figures are so much smaller than mine. If 10% = 11.18 GB, I'm guessing you only have a 120 GB drive.
    Do you have hibernation turned on? That is taking up space equal to 75% of my 8 GB memory, also pagefile.sys is over 1 GB. I think that is why my shadow copy is so large (10.14 GB and growing).

    Can you go to a command prompt and type dir c:\ /ah
    What is the size of your hiberfil.sys (if you have one), pagfile.sys, and swapfile.sys?
    I'm starting to think that my usage size would go down considerably if I turned of hibernation. I'm not using it, and the hiberfile.sys file has not be accessed since I before I bought this computer.
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  5. #45


    Posts : 511
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    Can you go to a command prompt and type dir c:\ /ah
    What is the size of your hiberfil.sys (if you have one), pagfile.sys, and swapfile.sys?
    I'm starting to think that my usage size would go down considerably if I turned of hibernation. I'm not using it, and the hiberfile.sys file has not be accessed since I before I bought this computer.
    I have been losing my restore points too.
    I'm a little confused. I have a 286,435,456 Swapfile.sys and 6,864,330,752 Hiberfile.sys on my C drive. And a 1,275,068,416 Pagefile.sys on my D drive. I have hibernate turned off. They were both accessed on 04/19/2013. I set my Pagefile to my D drive and none on C drive. I thought Swapfile and Pagefile were the same. Please educate me.
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  6. #46


    Clint, your numbers are only slightly larger than mine. How much space to you have allocated for restore points? Does your system keep more than one restore point? I think this is going to turn out to be a matter of allocating a lot more space to retain more than one restore point.

    Regarding swapfile and pagefile; I read about that this morning:

    One of the main reasons for the swapfile.sys is to suspend and resume Metro apps. So why not just use the paging file instead to do that? Itís used because certain types of paging operations can be done more efficiently using this special type of pagefile.

    Hereís a more clear explanation. Windows 8 supports both paging and swapping. Paging will hold items that havenít been accessed in a long time whereas swapping holds items that were recently taken out of memory. The items in pagingfile may not be accessed again for a long time whereas the items in swapfile might be accessed much sooner.

    The above is from HDG Explains - Swapfile.sys, Hiberfil.sys and Pagefile.sys in Windows 8 - Help Desk Geek
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  7. #47


    Clint - One more thing. You said that your hiberfil.sys files was 6 BG+. You also said that you have hibernate turned off. I read at hiberfil.sys in Windows 8 and why you should never delete it by disabling hibernation | Next of Windows That if you see hiberfil.sys listed when you run the dir c:\ /ah command, the hibernation is turned on.
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  8. #48


    Posts : 511
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    JeffL, Thanks for taking the time to educate me. This is great information.

    "How much space to you have allocated for restore points? Does your system keep more than one restore point?Ē


    I have 46.58 GB 5% of 1TB allocated for restore points. Right now I have 3 restore points, using 2.07 GB. At times I have lost all restore points.

    ď
    This is some great info. I didnít know it worked that way.

    "Clint - One more thing. You said that your hiberfil.sys files was 6 BG+. You also said that you have hibernate turned off. I read at hiberfil.sys in Windows 8 and why you should never delete it by disabling hibernation | Next of Windows That if you see hiberfil.sys listed when you run the dir c:\ /ah command, the hibernation is turned on.Ē


    I thought that I had hibernate turned off until I read your link. I thought sleep and hibernate were the same thing. From the article Fast Startup is hibernate. I had Fast Startup checked. I donít know how much faster it would start up without it, but Iím going to try. I donít see that much difference between Win7 and Win8 startup now.
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  9. #49


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    I would like to help.
    I need information about the issue.

    I've read the entire thread.

    I surmise you want to use Task Scheduler to automatically create a restore point every day ?
    Is that correct ?

    You want to know how much space is needed for 1 restore point ?
    If so, delete All restore points & create 1 manually.
    Check it to see how big it is.
    Multiply it by 2 or 3 or 4, etc. to see how much space to allocate for more restore points.
    Add a little more to be sure.
    If 1 takes 2 GBs, add 3 GBs to allocated space. ETC......

    This link may help.
    I checked it out & think it is helpful:

    How to Automatically Run & Create a Restore Point From the Task Scheduler | eHow.com

    You need a Trigger.
    See picture:

    Click image for larger version

    The more information I have about the issue,the better I can assist.
    Hopefully I will be able to help.
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  10. #50


    [QUOTE=JeffL;224367][QUOTE=lumbco;224243]
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffL View Post

    Your figures are so much smaller than mine. If 10% = 11.18 GB, I'm guessing you only have a 120 GB drive.
    Do you have hibernation turned on? That is taking up space equal to 75% of my 8 GB memory, also pagefile.sys is over 1 GB. I think that is why my shadow copy is so large (10.14 GB and growing).

    Can you go to a command prompt and type dir c:\ /ah
    What is the size of your hiberfil.sys (if you have one), pagfile.sys, and swapfile.sys?
    I'm starting to think that my usage size would go down considerably if I turned of hibernation. I'm not using it, and the hiberfile.sys file has not be accessed since I before I bought this computer.

    Sorry for the delay in replying, I have been away. I see that there are other posts which I will have to read later.

    In the meantime and to answer your post:

    I have a 120GB solid state drive plus a 1.5TB disc drive, don't know if hibernate is switched on.
    I use the sleep mode but I don't think that is the same as hibernate?

    Hiberfil = 6.827GB
    pagfile = 1.275GB
    Swapfile = 268MB
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