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Anyone figured out the disappearing restore points problem

  1. #11


    Znod - is your HP lappy using Windows 8?
    Brink - I installed Ccleaner. It shows the one and only restore point that I see via the Control Panel.

    I just looked at the task scheduler, and it shows that SR was run last night. There's no evidence of that in the restore point list, but that may mean that it was run, and would have created a restore point if not had been created in the last 7 days.

    I think I'm going to have to wait and see what happens.

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  2. #12


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    I have been having that for quite a while.

    Sometimes 7 shadow copies will stick. Sometimes they disappear. Seems to be after booting into 8.

    Haven't really bothered trying to find out exactly why 8 is causing that issue.
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  3. #13


    I just deleted my restore points, and created a new one. The usage is now 19.92 MB. Now I'm wondering if I mis-read the usage when I said it was over 7 GB (though that would explain my missing restore points problem). This is one of those moments that I wish I could go back in time 5 minutes.
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  4. #14


    I just got back to this after installing a new program and adding a 3rd restore point.
    The usage seems to be growing on it's own. It is now 286.59 MB and growing!
    I'm on the restore settings configuration window, and every time I click Cancel, and then Configure, the Usage is bigger. It went to 295.88 MB in the time that it took me to type this. What's going on. My fear is that it will reach the maximum for no reason, then start deleting restore points. 297.28 now
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffL View Post
    Znod - is your HP lappy using Windows 8?
    Brink - I installed Ccleaner. It shows the one and only restore point that I see via the Control Panel.

    I just looked at the task scheduler, and it shows that SR was run last night. There's no evidence of that in the restore point list, but that may mean that it was run, and would have created a restore point if not had been created in the last 7 days.

    I think I'm going to have to wait and see what happens.
    Yes, win8. Been out for awhile--actually still out. Missed some of the fun. I'll catch up eventually. I think I'm going to just avoid looking at my system restore info in the future. As I recall, it didn't work when I tried it once under 8 anyway.
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  6. #16


    I also have the problem that every few days system restore points are deleted, I now need to create one daily just to be safe.

    I tried to set up automatic restore points using the Task Scheduler, the log says that they completed OK but they do not appear in the list of restore points.

    In my previous Vista PC new restore points were created for each windows update, my Windows 8 does not do this.

    Regular restore points were also created by Vista.

    Also, there in no "show more restore points" option in the System Restore selection box.

    Can anyone help ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffL View Post
    I just deleted my restore points, and created a new one. The usage is now 19.92 MB. Now I'm wondering if I mis-read the usage when I said it was over 7 GB (though that would explain my missing restore points problem). This is one of those moments that I wish I could go back in time 5 minutes.
    I think some of the related values are funky for sure. Earlier I mentioned creating a new "test" restore point. I'll look again today after restarting. Paraphrased, you raise the issue how much space a typical restore point might take. I don't know. Of course, you'd think it would be at least a partial function of disk-space used in GB.

    Somewhat related info: My total disk space is 51.5 GB with 16.1 free (a little more than 30% free). My allocation for restore points, per Win8, is 8% and 5.59 GB. Unfortunately, .08 X 51.5 is only a little more than 4 GB. So, either either the 8% value or the 5.59 GB value is wrong--or 8% refers to something other than total disk space (i.e., I always though it would be based on total disk space). If both 8% and 5.59 GB are correct, then the calculation of 5.59 GB would have to be based on about 70 GB, i.e., .08 X 70 GB = about 5.59 GB. Go figure.
    Last edited by znod; 11 Apr 2013 at 14:08.
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    More info: I also run Win8 virtually via Parallels 8 on my MacBook Pro. Here:

    1. I have 3 restore points--all automatically created
    2. Total disk space--63.3 GB (with 53.9 GB free)
    3. Allocated for restore point--3% (1.91 GB)
    4. 3% X 63.3 = about 1.91 GB--which looks good to compared to the similar calculation above.
    Last edited by znod; 11 Apr 2013 at 14:08.
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffL View Post
    I just deleted my restore points, and created a new one. The usage is now 19.92 MB. Now I'm wondering if I mis-read the usage when I said it was over 7 GB (though that would explain my missing restore points problem). This is one of those moments that I wish I could go back in time 5 minutes.
    Based on the constant growth of the Current Usage figure in the configure window, I'm certain that I was right the first time, it was over 7 GB, not MB. I was shut down over night, which stopped it for a while, but it's picked up this morning, and is showing 2.89 GB. I posted yesterday that it was around 19 MB after creating my 2nd restore point, and over 200 MB a while later.

    As of this morning, I still have the 3 restore points I put in yesterday. I had a Windows update, but no update related restore points. On that topic, I read a post from someone who had contacted M/S, and was told that they only create a pre-update restore point for critical updates.

    znod - those calculations definitively don't make sense.

    lumbco - After reading many posts about users that have a scheduled task to run the automatic restore points daily, but don't see any results, I came up with a theory. In Windows 7, and I presume Windows 8, an automatic restore point is created only if a restore point has not been created in the past 7 days. The task scheduler can be set to run the program that creates a restore point every hour, but one of the first things it's coded to do, is check to see when the last restore point was created. If it was within 7 days, a new restore point is not created, but the program has done it's job, and ends successfully. The successful execution message you see, doesn't mean a restore point was created, it just means the program ran. That's my theory anyway.

    I'd still be interested from any of you, if you see your Current Usage in the configure window growing each time you go into the configure window. Especially if it hasn't already reached the Max Usage setting, or you've started over by deleting your existing restore points (you might as well, if they are disappearing anyway).

    I'm going to go back to the store today, and look at the figures a display computer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffL View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffL View Post
    I just deleted my restore points, and created a new one. The usage is now 19.92 MB. Now I'm wondering if I mis-read the usage when I said it was over 7 GB (though that would explain my missing restore points problem). This is one of those moments that I wish I could go back in time 5 minutes.
    Based on the constant growth of the Current Usage figure in the configure window, I'm certain that I was right the first time, it was over 7 GB, not MB. I was shut down over night, which stopped it for a while, but it's picked up this morning, and is showing 2.89 GB. I posted yesterday that it was around 19 MB after creating my 2nd restore point, and over 200 MB a while later.

    As of this morning, I still have the 3 restore points I put in yesterday. I had a Windows update, but no update related restore points. On that topic, I read a post from someone who had contacted M/S, and was told that they only create a pre-update restore point for critical updates.

    znod - those calculations definitively don't make sense.

    lumbco - After reading many posts about users that have a scheduled task to run the automatic restore points daily, but don't see any results, I came up with a theory. In Windows 7, and I presume Windows 8, an automatic restore point is created only if a restore point has not been created in the past 7 days. The task scheduler can be set to run the program that creates a restore point every hour, but one of the first things it's coded to do, is check to see when the last restore point was created. If it was within 7 days, a new restore point is not created, but the program has done it's job, and ends successfully. The successful execution message you see, doesn't mean a restore point was created, it just means the program ran. That's my theory anyway.

    I'd still be interested from any of you, if you see your Current Usage in the configure window growing each time you go into the configure window. Especially if it hasn't already reached the Max Usage setting, or you've started over by deleting your existing restore points (you might as well, if they are disappearing anyway).

    I'm going to go back to the store today, and look at the figures a display computer.
    Mine do not grow when going back to the configure window. However, a confusing thing is that when I went from one to two restore points on my HP, the usage only increased by .02 GB = 1.91 GB -1.89 GB.
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