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What makes windows eight special?

  1. #21


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Jim,

    will be interesting to hear what your wife thinks of /8. My wife has 2 laptops with Vista and one with /7. She has no problem with either one. I do all the maintenance and she clicks only on her 3 icons - AOL, Word and IE. That's all she ever uses. A change to /8 would probably be less of a deal for her than for me.

    But you know how much women like change. I had to setup the /7 exactly like the Vista systems - even the same desktop picture. And she does wonderful things with it. Even has her own blog (on crafting) since years.

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  2. #22


    Posts : 474
    Win 8 (64) : Win 7 (64) : Vista (64) : Android JB 4.2 : iOS 6


    Windows 8 takes 8 hours to do a full system recovery.

    Well, that was my mistake because I didn't know that by default, system protection is off from the very beginning. Well, not partly my fault too. I kept creating restore points and I didn't know they were not being created at all. So, I decided to do a system recovery, not a a refresh. But I wasn't warned it will take hours. It only says it will take several minutes or longer (not very, very,very long).

    I find Win 8 different but not cool. But I like Win 7 better.
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  3. #23


    Chicago USA
    Posts : 84
    Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8.1 Pro 32 bit and 64 bit


    I bought a new Dell desktop recently that came with Windows 8 64-bit pre-installed. My wife uses some old games that simply won't run on Win8 no matter what you do. I went into the BIOS turned off the safe boot and EFI, installed a fresh copy of Windows 7 Pro, installed her games and she is a happy camper.

    I have a Gateway mini that came with Win7 Starter which I had upgraded to Win7 Pro. When the $15 Win8 upgrade was available I took advantage and purchased a copy for the mini. I can tell you from experience that you absolutely get a performance boost when upgrading a lower powered mini to Windows 8. The 1024x600 resolution makes the tile interface unusable but I don't use it anyway. A 3rd party start button and a 3rd party Gadget application gives me the exact same desktop environment as I had with Windows 7 plus the benefit of everything running faster with less ram usage than my old setup.

    Whatever works best in your environment is the best choice!
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  4. #24


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    I have been very critical of Win8 in past posts, but have to admit there are certain things I like about it.

    Actually prefer the bland look with less embellishment for the working parts. Give me speed over aesthetics any day. All my folders run in list mode with no details, to fit as many files as possible in minimum space.

    Fast and crisp. And various other benefits listed by other posters.

    Also when drag/dropping personal data from 2nd SSD storage HD to Windows GUI it auto replaces existing empty file which came from Acronis image without having to confirm as in Win7. And quite a few other small faster ways of doing things.

    Part of the satisfaction has been to mod it to work as I want it to work. Settled on StartIsBack with Modern start screen available but by passed on boot.

    Almost all bugs now resolved after all latest Windows/Microsoft updates installed. To name a few:

    • WiFi adaptor which came with my mobo which runs Blue Tooth as well as acting as a WiFi Wireless Adaptor, and would not run a few months ago, now flies after latest updates. And actually gives faster download speed than my Belkin WiFi adaptor.
    • Don't have to disable Zone Alarm to get emails sent/received.
    • Revo Uninstaller runs OK in compatibility mode for Vista
    • Latest Acronis out yesterday has finally resolved my back up issues.
    • Lock screen disabled
    • UAC turned off now works
    • Windows update wouldn't run and now fixed.
    • IE10 with no add ons shortcut icon
    • 30 second time lag for web sites to run has auto fixed from updates.

    I agree with the previous poster that it depends on what you're looking for.

    • Something that just runs and gets the job done.
    • Something novel and exciting.
    • Social networking.
    • Pioneering new methods.
    • Following the pioneers after all the bugs are sorted so all you have to do is get behind the wheel and drive
    • Geeking around to explore all the manifest aspects of a new system and PC technology in general.
    • Arguing on forums just for the hell of it to pass the time.

      That's my 2 cents worh.
    Last edited by Mustang; 08 Apr 2013 at 08:08.
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  5. #25


    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    Nobody seems to mention the new improved networking stack in Windows 8 - it's much faster, smoother and reliable than that of Windows 7, switching from wired to wireless or connecting either medium on startup without the wait. I used to have to spend a lot of time in the Windows 7 Network and Sharing Center or Network Troubleshooter trying to remake failed connections, but now in 8, I don't even know what they look like.
    I totally agree. My laptop with W7 with waking from sleep or hibernation takes long time connecting with my router or need to run troubleshooter to get to connect. With the laptop with W8 is instantly connected or so it seems.
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  6. #26


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Yes

    Question: What makes Windows 8 special?
    Answer: It is not Windows 7
    Lol! Right on, Bro! :thumbup:
    I seem to remember someone saying in another thread HERE:

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie
    Numbers never lie.
    Is that statement a lie? Hmmmmm????

    A statement is a lie only when it's said by a non-fanboi! lol!
    Come on now. You know numbers don't lie. It's an indisputable statement that's been around longer than we've been alive.

    Be fair. Let's compare oranges with oranges. I wasn't a member of Vista or Seven forums. Seven has been around far longer so it's only fair to compare 8F to 7F time wise. We also see people come and go. We must also look at "active members".

    I've always stated that 8 will be slow out of the gate because of the navigation UI changes, moved items, the learning curve, and the concept of it. I'm beginning to see that it may not be as popular, but one cannot win the big chips unless one gambles with the big chips and we know MS is putting a lot on the line here.

    I have been very critical of Windows 8 in past posts, but have to admit there are certain things I like about it.
    What's this? Are we beginning to "see the light"?
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  7. #27


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I have been very critical of Windows 8 in past posts, but have to admit there are certain things I like about it.
    What's this? Are we beginning to "see the light"?
    Ahhhhhh Hippsie! I only ever seek the truth mate! (Fingers crossed behind my back! Hee hee!) Well at least I hope I do!

    After all, isn't that the basis of all scientific investigation ... and IMHO, the basis of rational living. I also hope I'm open minded, although some might question that too? lol!

    In all seriousness, I have always wanted Win8 to work as I've been a M$ fan ever since Win98 when I first began using PCs. And nobody blames them for going after the big prize. They'd be crazy not to!

    However, the sad thing as I see it is the way they have gone about it. It would have been easy to offer an alternative OS for desktop PC users, while still keeping Metro for mainstream Tablet, Smartfones, etc. This way they would have kept everybody on side.

    However, they alienated traditional users and set themselves up as a target for their enemies ... and even wanna be friends ... by forcing everyone to use Metro as a marketing ploy to promote it. Every man and his dog has had a field day jumping on the "bash Microsoft" band wagon. But truthfully they have nobody to blame but themselves.

    You run a business and I feel sure you'd agree that a business must service the demands of consumers. And not the other way round. The one thing customers demand is choices ... like how many windows in a house they're building; or placement of doors. Most builders have a range of plans, but would go bankrupt in quick time if they weren't flexible in meeting buyers variations to plan.

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Come on now. You know numbers don't lie. It's an indisputable statement that's been around longer than we've been alive.

    I've always stated that 8 will be slow out of the gate because of ...
    I couldn't agree more, the numbers certainly don't lie! That was my whole point. Comparatively speaking from the pro rata point of view of lapsed time since release date ...both for forum members ... and more importantly, SALES ! ... Win8 isn't slow out of the starting gate ... when the gates opened it bolted and ran backwards! Maybe not going backwards anymore, but not much forward either.

    In fact you might say it was "still born"! And the corpse has been dead so long it's starting to stink and should be buried! But who knows, with perseverance it may still have a "resurrection day" ... if they're prepared to bend and not break.

    Hell I persevered with Vista against all the odds. And with enough RAM, SSD HD, and proper drivers, it's a very respectable rig! Why even just recently, I built a core 2 duo PC from foraged parts, with Vista Ultimate on it, for my ex and her husband. And they're over the moon with it. Ain't life strange, eh?

    Go well my friend, and may the force be with you. Cheers M
    Last edited by Mustang; 08 Apr 2013 at 08:10.
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  8. #28


    We most likely are MS fans on this forum, otherwise we wouldn't join. I know you gave 8 a good look and try. You came to your conclusion just as we all have.

    Truth is a necessary illusion. What may be true today may not be tomorrow. As data comes or we seek it we always assess. There's no absolute science.

    More often than not a customer has a rough idea of what they want. In my business to get them to decide exactly what they want is a job within itself. And then during construction there's usually changes. I try to keep them down to a minimum. Sometimes I think I should take the blueprint, tack it to a wall, and throw darts at it.

    As MS fans and consumers we expected something similar with 8 as with past OSs, but not such a big change. A new interface for navigation, modern apps, and a store. MS is simply trying to diversify as they all are.

    The way I see it MS didn't change the game. For the most part Google and Apple did with pads and cellphones. A different "touch" market today and consumers are buying. If MS is guilty of anything it's that they are attempting to make it one better by getting an OS to run across multiple devices in conjunction with Windows phone 8. It's rather ingenious to me. It seems it will simplify things. Devices and phones synching automatically.

    No one in any business cannot keep all their costumers happy all the time. I think 8 is a good compromise from the old to the new. Time will tell on all.
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  9. #29


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ei8htmad View Post
    Is there anything im missing on windows eight?

    thanks
    1. Faster Boots
    2. Integrated Hyper-V
    3. Natively mounts ISO files
    4. File History feature
    5. Improved Task Manager
    6. Events tracking in Device Manager
    7. Better dual monitor support
    8. Refresh and Restore options

    Those are also the very things I like. I also like that IE10 has a Chrome-Style Spell Checker The Desktop is VERY fast compared to Windows 7. Sometimes you can run the installer for old apps using Compatibility Mode, and sometimes they will work. If something doesn't work, it is likely that it depends on dot net. If you upgraded a Windows 7 machine to 8, you will have problems with dot net because you will have this "legacy Dot net" in there. This is the biggest problem with Windows 8 from an Upgrade - Before you upgrade, remove ALL of your Dot Net packages and let Windows 8 load it's native dot net packages.
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  10. #30


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    More often than not a customer has a rough idea of what they want. In my business to get them to decide exactly what they want is a job within itself. And then during construction there's usually changes. I try to keep them down to a minimum. Sometimes I think I should take the blueprint, tack it to a wall, and throw darts at it.
    Yeah I thought you would appreciate what I was saying. My professional back ground is in electronics but not PCs, which came later more as an accident, and became a hobby as well as the obvious pragmatic stuff of paying utilities and other bills online, etc.

    However back in the late 60's I sold building contracts for what was at that time the biggest national building company in Australia and innovative in being one of the first to sell a set range of homes from display centres. People saw what they got and the company kept prices down by bulk planning and purchase of materials via state and national supplier contracts, large scale labor contracts, etc. Within local council by-law restraints the basic designs were the same in every state.

    To keep the prices competitive they had to work within a limited form fact, so they had a very strict variation policy. From a selling point of view this was the bane of our life having to convince people that the home could be personalized ... to a degree. And that you couldn't combine architectural freedom of choice with low price. We were kind of like a small Microsoft only in the building industry.

    It almost sent the sales personnel bananas just dealing with the variations allowable, like brick and tile selection, and the myriad other things that go into making a home. It was not uncommon to get some guy ringing at 3am to check whether he ordered a split level stove or whatever.

    From there I progressed to selling design and construction contracts for a national civil engineering company, as opposed to architect tenders. And from there I went back to school and got into electronics. Never a dull moment.

    I do believe there are some absolute truths in life, but most things are varying shades of black and white, depending on the circumstances. For example, under the same set of identical circumstances, the same identical electronic component will always act in exactly the same way ... basic laws of physics. You rely on those laws to know you can build a house that won't collapse under normal circumstances. Under abnormal circumstances like a cyclone it could collapse.

    What changes from time to time is our understanding of what and how things function, and how we interpret it. And the deeper the understanding, the more we can control variations in behaviour, by varying the circumstances and components. Another example of an absolute is if you stand on a freeway in front of an oncoming semi doing 100 mph. It is absolutely certain you will die! lol!

    Cheers Joaquin
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