MSE inbuilt for Windows 8

dinesh

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Hi there, since MS started shipping Windows Defender in Vista as a comprehensive security measure to deal with malware. I guess Windows 8 will come with MSE.

What do you think?
 

My Computer

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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit
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    Laptop
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    Samsung NP530U4B-S02
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    Intel Core i5 2467M @ 1.60GHz
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    SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. 530U3BI/530U4BI/530U4BH (CPU
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    1 MBPS
I doubt it. The EU will probably complain about it to much. Do not think Microsoft wants to go through that again.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Pro. x64
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    Custom
    CPU
    AMD Athlon II X2 240 @ 2.8GHz
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    Asus M4A785-M
    Memory
    G-Skill 2 x 1GB DDR2 800MHz
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    (Integrated) ATI Radeon 4200
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    VT1708S High Definition Audio 8-Channel
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    16" CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1152x864@75Hz
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
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    Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB 7200rpm
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    Thermaltake SpinQ (aka: Black Widow)
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    Standard Dell
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I'm going to guess not. Too many people use third-party programs like Norton. You know those guys, they swear by the program they payed for and won't consider changing. Until people open up to using free alternatives, Microsoft would be adding another step for them. First they would need to remove MSE, then install the other.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win7 Professional x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Jonathan King
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Dual Core Processor 4850e overclocked @ 2.92 GHz
    Motherboard
    Edit Value ASRock A780 FullDisplayPort
    Memory
    4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 290MHz Crucial Technology
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI 3200 (onboard), nVidia 7200 GS (PCIe)
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    17" Cybervison ds69T, 17" Starlogic
    Screen Resolution
    1280x960
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    WD 320GB SATA, Hitachi 1TB SATA, Samsung 1.5TB SATA
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    Antec ea-430d 430W
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    Antec 800
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    stock cpu, 120mm rear, 140mm top
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    Microsoft Wired Desktop 500 (PS/2)
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wired Desktop 500 (USB)
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    9.32 Mb/s download; 0.36 Mb/s upload
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    Other OS's:
    Win7 Professional x86, Windows Vista Ultimate x64
I'm going to guess not. Too many people use third-party programs like Norton. You know those guys, they swear by the program they payed for and won't consider changing. Until people open up to using free alternatives, Microsoft would be adding another step for them. First they would need to remove MSE, then install the other.

I think during the setup/installation phase of Windows they should allow you to install/not install Windows programs (such as IE, MSE, WLMessenger, WLMail, etc).
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7 Pro. x64
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    Custom
    CPU
    AMD Athlon II X2 240 @ 2.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4A785-M
    Memory
    G-Skill 2 x 1GB DDR2 800MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    (Integrated) ATI Radeon 4200
    Sound Card
    VT1708S High Definition Audio 8-Channel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1152x864@75Hz
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
    Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB 7200rpm
    PSU
    Raidmax 450W
    Case
    Raidmax Tornado
    Cooling
    Thermaltake SpinQ (aka: Black Widow)
    Keyboard
    Standard Dell
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse (black)
    Internet Speed
    Download: 1.6mbps, Upload: 320kbps
I barely trust Microsoft's security programs, dunno why but I think XP's Windows Firewall kinda set me off....
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro 64-bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
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    Custom
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 950 @ 4.4GHz
    Motherboard
    EVGA 131-GT-E767
    Memory
    12GB DDR3 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 5770
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer S231HL + Acer E19T5W
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 + 1440x900
    Hard Drives
    128GB Samsung 840 Pro
    1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 64mb
    500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 16mb
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    Corsair GS800
    Case
    Custom-fab
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    CM Hyper212+, lots of fans
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    NMB RT8255C+
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    Func MS-3
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    20/2
    Browser
    Google Chrome
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    Spybot SD/Malwarebytes
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    Onkyo TX-27 receiver & two Realistic Optimus T100s
I barely trust Microsoft's security programs, dunno why but I think XP's Windows Firewall kinda set me off....
I can't speak for XP, but I know MSE is very trustworthy. I use it as my only AV, and it has never let me down.

I know others feel the same way. Give MSE a try! After all, it's free?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win7 Professional x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Jonathan King
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Dual Core Processor 4850e overclocked @ 2.92 GHz
    Motherboard
    Edit Value ASRock A780 FullDisplayPort
    Memory
    4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 290MHz Crucial Technology
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI 3200 (onboard), nVidia 7200 GS (PCIe)
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" Cybervison ds69T, 17" Starlogic
    Screen Resolution
    1280x960
    Hard Drives
    WD 320GB SATA, Hitachi 1TB SATA, Samsung 1.5TB SATA
    PSU
    Antec ea-430d 430W
    Case
    Antec 800
    Cooling
    stock cpu, 120mm rear, 140mm top
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Wired Desktop 500 (PS/2)
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wired Desktop 500 (USB)
    Internet Speed
    9.32 Mb/s download; 0.36 Mb/s upload
    Other Info
    Other OS's:
    Win7 Professional x86, Windows Vista Ultimate x64
The comment about the EU is right on target. The EU is very consumer conscious and i doubt that MS would like to take them on again. My guess would be that the trend goes towards more configurability a la Windows Live Essentials. The odd thing here is that you can make a selection during the uninstall, but not during the install. That is logic backwards.
 

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  • OS
    Vista and Win7
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    2xHP, 2xGateway, 1xDell, 1xSony
    Hard Drives
    5 SSDs and 12 HDs
Yep, it will be an 'optional' add-on.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Vanilla 8 Pro x64
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    SmartEyeball Custom Systems
    CPU
    Intel 3770K @4.8ghz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77 WS
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident 2666mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    SB X-FI Surround 5.1 PRO USB + ATH-AD900 Headphones
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    5760*1200/1920*1200 / 1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200
    Case
    Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D14
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs: Clevo Sager P170HM // 17.3 Matte 1920x1200 // i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz // Dedicated GTX 485M // 240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray // Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0 // NexStar USB 3.0 enclosure 500GB

My Computer

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  • OS
    64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus CM5675
    CPU
    IntelCore i5 3.20Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus CM5675
    Memory
    6.0Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD integtrated
    Sound Card
    SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 24'
    Screen Resolution
    1900x1080
    Hard Drives
    Segate 1tb
    Intel 120Gb SSD
    Internet Speed
    100mb down /10mb up
Maybe included in the Live Suite of products?
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Zen Productions/000001
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-860
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator 2x2gb @ 1600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon 5770 HD OCd
    Sound Card
    Integrated HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung P2570HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Caviar Black 500gb
    PSU
    Corsair 750W HX
    Case
    Antec P183
    Cooling
    Corsair H-50
    Keyboard
    Logitech G110
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Revolution
    Internet Speed
    500kb/s average
Maybe included in the Live Suite of products?

Nice thought there but wouldn't it have to be a Live product? Would be rather odd to have all Live products in the suite and then MSE, which would stick out a lot.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Pro. x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    AMD Athlon II X2 240 @ 2.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4A785-M
    Memory
    G-Skill 2 x 1GB DDR2 800MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    (Integrated) ATI Radeon 4200
    Sound Card
    VT1708S High Definition Audio 8-Channel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1152x864@75Hz
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
    Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB 7200rpm
    PSU
    Raidmax 450W
    Case
    Raidmax Tornado
    Cooling
    Thermaltake SpinQ (aka: Black Widow)
    Keyboard
    Standard Dell
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse (black)
    Internet Speed
    Download: 1.6mbps, Upload: 320kbps
How hard would it be to change the name to MSSE Live!
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Zen Productions/000001
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-860
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator 2x2gb @ 1600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon 5770 HD OCd
    Sound Card
    Integrated HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung P2570HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Caviar Black 500gb
    PSU
    Corsair 750W HX
    Case
    Antec P183
    Cooling
    Corsair H-50
    Keyboard
    Logitech G110
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Revolution
    Internet Speed
    500kb/s average

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung NP530U4B-S02
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 2467M @ 1.60GHz
    Motherboard
    SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. 530U3BI/530U4BI/530U4BH (CPU
    Memory
    6.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
    Graphics Card(s)
    1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 7500M/7600M Series (Samsung)
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    931GB SAMSUNG HN-M101MBB (SATA)
    Internet Speed
    1 MBPS
MicroSoft Security Essentials Live is a bit long. How about Live Security Essentials.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Pro. x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    AMD Athlon II X2 240 @ 2.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4A785-M
    Memory
    G-Skill 2 x 1GB DDR2 800MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    (Integrated) ATI Radeon 4200
    Sound Card
    VT1708S High Definition Audio 8-Channel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1152x864@75Hz
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
    Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB 7200rpm
    PSU
    Raidmax 450W
    Case
    Raidmax Tornado
    Cooling
    Thermaltake SpinQ (aka: Black Widow)
    Keyboard
    Standard Dell
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse (black)
    Internet Speed
    Download: 1.6mbps, Upload: 320kbps
LSE would be even better.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Vista and Win7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    2xHP, 2xGateway, 1xDell, 1xSony
    Hard Drives
    5 SSDs and 12 HDs
Even though MS naming conventions can get a little skewif at times, it will stay as MSE simply because it will be an established cross platform A/V.

Changing the name of a 'brand' they are trying to establish will be counter productive.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Vanilla 8 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    SmartEyeball Custom Systems
    CPU
    Intel 3770K @4.8ghz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77 WS
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident 2666mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    SB X-FI Surround 5.1 PRO USB + ATH-AD900 Headphones
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    5760*1200/1920*1200 / 1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200
    Case
    Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D14
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs: Clevo Sager P170HM // 17.3 Matte 1920x1200 // i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz // Dedicated GTX 485M // 240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray // Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0 // NexStar USB 3.0 enclosure 500GB
Even though MS naming conventions can get a little skewif at times, it will stay as MSE simply because it will be an established cross platform A/V.

Changing the name of a 'brand' they are trying to establish will be counter productive.

I wasn't saying they 'should' change the name. I was saying that it wouldn't fit in, in the Live Suite unless it was something like Live Security Essentials.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Pro. x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    AMD Athlon II X2 240 @ 2.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4A785-M
    Memory
    G-Skill 2 x 1GB DDR2 800MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    (Integrated) ATI Radeon 4200
    Sound Card
    VT1708S High Definition Audio 8-Channel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1152x864@75Hz
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
    Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB 7200rpm
    PSU
    Raidmax 450W
    Case
    Raidmax Tornado
    Cooling
    Thermaltake SpinQ (aka: Black Widow)
    Keyboard
    Standard Dell
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse (black)
    Internet Speed
    Download: 1.6mbps, Upload: 320kbps
im also leaning toward a no with this. MS would only end up in anti trust court again. it's likely there will be a download link included like they do with windows live services but im sure that would be the extent of it.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition
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    Custom
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 Extreme 3.33GHz
    Motherboard
    EVGA X-58 SLI Classified
    Memory
    12GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x EVGA 285 2GB in SLI
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi ExtremeGamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    30" Viewsonic
    Hard Drives
    2x1TB Western Digital 7200RPM in RAID 0/1TB WD My Book External HDD
    PSU
    Thermaltake 1000w supporting quad SLI
    Case
    Thermaltake Armor Full Tower
    Cooling
    Thermaltake V1 CPU+DIY Liquid cooling
It's kinda funny that we live in a world where a company could be sued for trying to include in their product the material to keep it protected.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Zen Productions/000001
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-860
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator 2x2gb @ 1600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon 5770 HD OCd
    Sound Card
    Integrated HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung P2570HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Caviar Black 500gb
    PSU
    Corsair 750W HX
    Case
    Antec P183
    Cooling
    Corsair H-50
    Keyboard
    Logitech G110
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Revolution
    Internet Speed
    500kb/s average
It's kinda funny that we live in a world where a company could be sued for trying to include in their product the material to keep it protected.

Yeah its pretty bad. Its Microsoft's product, they should have a right to include any of their programs in it without consequence.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Pro. x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    AMD Athlon II X2 240 @ 2.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4A785-M
    Memory
    G-Skill 2 x 1GB DDR2 800MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    (Integrated) ATI Radeon 4200
    Sound Card
    VT1708S High Definition Audio 8-Channel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1152x864@75Hz
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
    Seagate ST3300831AS - 300GB 7200rpm (RAID0)
    Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB 7200rpm
    PSU
    Raidmax 450W
    Case
    Raidmax Tornado
    Cooling
    Thermaltake SpinQ (aka: Black Widow)
    Keyboard
    Standard Dell
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse (black)
    Internet Speed
    Download: 1.6mbps, Upload: 320kbps
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