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Difference between 8 pro upgrade and full version

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    Difference between 8 pro upgrade and full version


    Just what difference is there in either version except with the upgrade you either have to have a previous version installed or the disks available. I assume you have a choice for doing a clean install with the upgrade if you desire or saving your current files etc.

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    There is no traditional full retail version of Windows 8. The nearest that I know of is the System Builder license, which can be used similarly to the old retail license. I'm not sure whether it can be used to do an upgrade-in-place, like the old full retail license.

    Normally, an upgrade license requires that an upgradeable older OS be installed. (Some would say and activated.) Just having disks for the older OS isn't good enough. However, there's another activation method:

    Clean Install with Windows 8 Upgrade[2]=Installation and Setup

    Yes, an upgrade copy can be used to do a clean install. You can even delete the existing partitions on the OS install drive. It's a bit different than older versions of Windows: even if you delete the OS partitions, some settings and files will be carried over from the old installation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackman33 View Post
    Just what difference is there in either version except with the upgrade you either have to have a previous version installed or the disks available. I assume you have a choice for doing a clean install with the upgrade if you desire or saving your current files etc.
    Technet full-install version (probably MSDN version too) allows upgrading. Not sure about system-builder version as mentioned by bobkn. If using retail upgrade software, then you need to have qualifying software installed or available (don't agree with bobkn on the available point). Either way you forfeit use of the qualifying software if using retail upgrade for as long as your Win8 upgrade is being used.

    Personally, I would never do any kind of install (even refresh) without my files being backed up off computer. Only your personal files will be maintained if you start with XP SP3.
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    Thanks for the input. I guess I did not do enough homework to find that there isn't a full retail copy!!



    Quote Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
    There is no traditional full retail version of Windows 8. The nearest that I know of is the System Builder license, which can be used similarly to the old retail license. I'm not sure whether it can be used to do an upgrade-in-place, like the old full retail license.

    Normally, an upgrade license requires that an upgradeable older OS be installed. (Some would say and activated.) Just having disks for the older OS isn't good enough. However, there's another activation method:

    Clean Install with Windows 8 Upgrade[2]=Installation and Setup

    Yes, an upgrade copy can be used to do a clean install. You can even delete the existing partitions on the OS install drive. It's a bit different than older versions of Windows: even if you delete the OS partitions, some settings and files will be carried over from the old installation.
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    Windows 8 64bit


    Thanks for the help...............



    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackman33 View Post
    Just what difference is there in either version except with the upgrade you either have to have a previous version installed or the disks available. I assume you have a choice for doing a clean install with the upgrade if you desire or saving your current files etc.
    Technet full-install version (probably MSDN version too) allows upgrading. Not sure about system-builder version as mentioned by bobkn. If using retail upgrade software, then you need to have qualifying software installed or available (don't agree with bobkn on the available point). Either way you forfeit use of the qualifying software if using retail upgrade for as long as your Win8 upgrade is being used.

    Personally, I would never do any kind of install (even refresh) without my files being backed up off computer. Only your personal files will be maintained if you start with XP SP3.
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    You can use a system-builder version as an upgrade.


    Technet full-install version (probably MSDN version too) allows upgrading.
    Those are for testing only,& not for consumer use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackman33 View Post
    Thanks for the help...............



    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackman33 View Post
    Just what difference is there in either version except with the upgrade you either have to have a previous version installed or the disks available. I assume you have a choice for doing a clean install with the upgrade if you desire or saving your current files etc.
    Technet full-install version (probably MSDN version too) allows upgrading. Not sure about system-builder version as mentioned by bobkn. If using retail upgrade software, then you need to have qualifying software installed or available (don't agree with bobkn on the available point). Either way you forfeit use of the qualifying software if using retail upgrade for as long as your Win8 upgrade is being used.

    Personally, I would never do any kind of install (even refresh) without my files being backed up off computer. Only your personal files will be maintained if you start with XP SP3.
    You are very welcome. And, didn't mean to imply anything other than what theog said about technet and MSDN full install versions--that they are for evaluation purposes only.
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    Windows 8 64bit


    Thanks!



    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    You can use a system-builder version as an upgrade.


    Technet full-install version (probably MSDN version too) allows upgrading.
    Those are for testing only,& not for consumer use.
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    ??? I said above: "And, didn't mean to imply anything other than what theog said [earlier] about technet and MSDN full install versions--that they are for evaluation [the word used by Technet at least] purposes only."
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    Windows 8 Pro


    if i buy a new hdd, does this mean i have to install first windows 7 and then windows 8?

    has anyone tried this ?..
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