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Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8?

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    Have you wondered why the word NEW is a common sight - on packaging for example.

    That is to show the potential buyers the product is either new - or more often , has changed.

    They do not do that to put people off.

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    Doesn't / Hasn't television done the same thing through it's evolution, Neilsen ratings, the pop ups on tv now when you watch one show, ads for the next show or some event in the future are popping up. Why pick on the pc when cable does it. Everything does it and tv led the way. You couldn't listen to radio in the 30's without the very host doing the ads. George Burns right in the middle of the skit would break into an ad, sometimes impromtu, for his sponser. Ads have always driven media. It's nothing new with Windows 8 or cable, or tv, or radio. It's ever present and always been there. I don't see what the deal it but you are only looking to pick. I have given my side above but admitted "to each his own." I'm just glad that I'm enjoying my experience because all the words, arguments and rancor is never going to turn back the evolution. Will you ever be happy again? Life is too short. You can't turn this clock back. So enjoy I say, that's all I am trying to get across. Fuming about it will never change a thing. ":-\

    I think I will stop my answers to this post. It's futile. If some one wants to be angry you hardly can stop that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackdashack View Post
    Fuming about it will never change a thing. ":-\
    That is where you are Flat wrong. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jackdashack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I think we have exchanged all the arguments that are possible. At the end, everybody has to decide for himself/herself whether to use Windows 8 or not.
    Mr.Whs, you are obviously right. And I mean that sincerely, why look at all the credentials and the things you've written. But when it comes down to it, like you said, it's individual but it is an attitude that sometimes needs adjusting. Your alternative system that you like is probably a sweet thing if you say so. I'd be inclined to look at even though I don't know what it means and entails. But be sure, not matter how slick and sweet this alternative OS is, basically, the same people would complain. I don't know what you mean by Windows 8 doesn't feel right. When I first got this new HP with Win8 2 months ago the poor XP filed for divorce. I neglected it terribly. But when I went back to it to start taking some of the big programs off and cleaning it up for a more "retired" use ... it didn't feel right ... and it doesn't feel right when I use it now. I am enamored with the new Win8. I love the "live" tiles ... the more the better. Makes for a very interesting desktop. But one thing I'll say in bowing out ... I respect your knowledge and wish I had just what your little pinkie would have in my own head. To each his own I guess. but I am one complainer that learned I could change and love it. Even at the tender age of SSI. To all a G'day! jack ":-D
    If you'd like to experiment with something a bit different, have a look here.
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    Where you live, there might be more ads on tv than previously. That doesn't mean people have to like more ads being shoved at them elsewhere.


    I don't think anybody is fuming.

    It is a forum, we are interested in discussing these things.

    It is particularly interesting to see how MS are going to deal with the current situation.

    Some will be curious what they are going to do in a technical sense, others may be interested from a marketing perspective, for example.

    Corporations will respond to the market, there is a point in rejecting things that do not fulfill the consumers wants and needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    If you'd like to experiment with something a bit different
    I tried Linux many times but never could get along with Linux not remembering Window sizes without individual configurations. Also, never liked all the strange programs that are included by default.
    Really not a terminal sudo person.
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  7. #87


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    @Jack,

    There is a lot of traffic going down our residential street.

    When they have completed work on the road fairly nearby - that trafiic will go down there. It is a slightly more direct route and much faster for the traffic.

    It is also a relief to the residents.

    That is a change - a big change. It will be met with delight.

    Your idea that people complain at change is completely false.
    You are speaking of change for the better. The author speaks of change for the worse. At least for the greater majority. To quote the article:

    A tiny percentage (say one percent) of users are experts, with a high tolerance for learning.

    A few more (say nine percent) of users are willing adopters they have an expectation that the product will meet their needs, and some (albeit low) tolerance for learning.

    The remaining 90 percent of users just use technology to get a job done and have no tolerance for learning at all. These are mainstreamers.
    Lets say the figures are correct, which I doubt, but the author has stated these figures.

    If 1% have a high tolerance for learning, can we assume that 90% do not have that tolerance? If that's true, can we assume that is resistance to change?

    It seems to me if people are intolerable to learn that means they are resisting the change. It seems they cannot tolerate change. If A = B and B = C then A = C. Yes?
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    An example is in the link labeeman provided:

    "A key ingredient in our formula for success is listening to our customers, and we're grateful for the feedback behind this change... Thank you," Microsoft added.
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    You are speaking of change for the better.
    Exactly, change for the better is fine.

    Change for the worse will not go down so well.

    I doesn't matter what a tiny number of fans think. The public do not want what is being offered.

    If you want to believe it is the customers fault - they are stupid, lazy , or any other insult you want to throw at them - then that is up to you.

    That is the kind of thing Dictators go for - they are too stupid - we know what is best for them , etc.
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    The base assumption must be that people do not like change. You see that in all walks of life. Even if the change is for the better, it is usually rejected.

    So the art is that a provider must balance the amount of change with the benifits of the new thing. If there is a LOT of change for little benifit, people will not buy into it.
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