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Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gator View Post
    is there anyway to bypass the password and just go to the desktop?
    You can automate the login with netplwiz. Type that into the start screen and when you get the little window, uncheck the little box that says that a password is required for login. Then you give the password (twice) and in the future it will log you in automatically - but not to the desktop, to start.
    That will get you past the need to type in a password or pin code if you don't opt for using an image key to login with. But it still won't get you past the Start screen until following the instructions for that seen at https://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...-a.html?filter

    When first installing any version of Windows leaving the password box blank and continuing on with the installation will typically see an automatic login. For 8 without anything assigned you press and hold the enter key right as the Welcome screen appears having the Desktop button at the top left corner of the Start screen to see that made the default button.

    Now for something else besides MPI since the Metro or as MS calls it the "Modern" which also explains why StarDock calls their new app for 8 ModernMix Windows RT Surface Tablet gui sums everything up in one shot! since that's precisely what you have tossed onto the half of a new version of Windows. Half being the stripped down updated Windows core losing Media Center and dvd playback, video playback support in the lates WMPlayer as well as lightening up the OS a bit more to see a faster boot as they progress a liittle further with the WinMin modular type kernel.

    When trying out pressing and holding the Enter key having no password assigned to avoid running smack into the Start screen first as soon as the Welcome screen appears the transformation from Welcome to Desktop was instantaneous! This was on the RP VM still running at this time on VBox. Wy fuss with any command line perimeter if you don't like command line perimeters? With the other guide you still see the Start screen briefly while holding the enter only sees the desktop appear in an instant.

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  2. #62


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Summary: Windows 8 doesn't exactly seem to be setting the world alight. Perhaps the requirement that indifferent users have to sit down and learn their way around something new is causing problems...
    A very interesting article that summarizes a lot of the elements we have been discussing here.

    Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8? | ZDNet
    I got in a whole big thing about this on another forum. Some young kid was on the whinning about how it had messed him up and affected his hotmail. I nicely said, hey, I'm a senior citizen and I was thrown by it for a couple of week but got onto it and now enjoy it. I love seeing the live tiles on the Metro Start page. A whole lot more interesting than staring a dull static unmoving desktop with the old icons of XP. Maybe this is not the question posed here. Maybe some of you are very happy with Vista or Windows 7. I wouldn't know, I came right from 7 years with XP to Windows 8. This guy I talked about above really go irritated with me and said I was an Idi0t and only had 2 brain cells. He wanted all this old stuff back. I told him he was wasting his mind and strength whining and complaining so move on. Finally a moderator stepped in and gave him a what for. But I don't get it. I've been buying pc's since 1988 and on the web since 1996 and nothing has ever remained static or unprogressive, it's the nature of this beast. At one time I knew how to code Basic and Dos real well. So now it's a lost thing and I don't use it. I could do HTML real good at one time, I've lost that ability. But I still like some of the newer things that have come along. Windows 8? Try it ... you'll eventually like it if you keep an open mind. Jack ":-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackdashack View Post
    Try it ... you'll eventually like it if you keep an open mind. Jack ":-D
    Bill will soon praise you and possibly propose (that's a joke Bill); however, many, many, people have been using Windows 8 for some time, with a completely open mind, and come to the conclusion that it cannot be liked in it's current configuration.
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  4. #64


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    I'll take a chance & post my thoughts on Windows 8 Pro.

    Numbers like 90% mean nothing.
    Just an arbitrary number picked out of thin air to stir controversy.

    People with the knowledge to operate a touch screen on a computer or other device will be comfortable with the Start screen.

    People that like the Desktop mode have that option.
    You can use Classic Shell to get a Start button.

    StarDock has a program to open Metro apps in windows instead of full screen.

    Instead of whining about the changes Microsoft made in Windows 8, I studied it & tweaked it to suit me.

    I don't see what all the fuss is about.

    The Marines have a saying about adapting & improvising & overcoming.

    I'm not a military person but the idea of dealing with existing circumstances in a positive manner seems appropriate to any situation.

    I'm old.
    I went straight from XP Pro to Win 8 Pro.
    No problem, after playing around with it.
    New things freak some people out.
    There will always be complainers & those who choose to deal with things in an appropriate manner.

    I like Windows 8 Pro.
    I'm used to the Desktop, so I use it.
    If I had a smart phone or touch screen, I would use the Metro stuff.

    To put it in a nutshell ~ Adapt, Improvise, Overcome.....

    Now I'll wait for negative responses to my thoughts.

    My thoughts on the subject are appropriate, so small minded comments will not hurt me or negate the verity of my thoughts on the situation.
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    As ex-military:

    - Soldiers should not have to buy their own equipment because what the government supplies is unfit for purpose.

    - The best weapon in the world is useless if it's not simple to operate, reliable and easy to maintain.

    - The best laid plans turn to crap when you meet the enemy.

    Microsoft failed in all three points.
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  6. #66


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    As ex-military:

    - Soldiers should not have to buy their own equipment because what the government supplies is unfit for purpose.

    - The best weapon in the world is useless if it's not simple to operate, reliable and easy to maintain.

    - The best laid plans turn to crap when you meet the enemy.

    Microsoft failed in all three points.
    You missed my point entirely.
    ~One negative response by someone who failed to understand what I said.
    Keep them coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by medab1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    As ex-military:

    - Soldiers should not have to buy their own equipment because what the government supplies is unfit for purpose.

    - The best weapon in the world is useless if it's not simple to operate, reliable and easy to maintain.

    - The best laid plans turn to crap when you meet the enemy.

    Microsoft failed in all three points.
    You missed my point entirely.
    ~One negative response by someone who failed to understand what I said.
    Keep them coming.
    If you say so. Now may I ask you what it was that I failed to understand?
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  8. #68


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    [QUOTE=Ray8;207316]
    Quote Originally Posted by medab1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    As ex-military:

    - Soldiers should not have to buy their own equipment because what the government supplies is unfit for purpose.

    My uncle joined the Marines in 1925 & retired in 1955 after 30 years of service.
    He related to me stories of where soldiers simply had to acquire needed things on their own.
    They didn't cry about it, they did something about it...

    - The best weapon in the world is useless if it's not simple to operate, reliable and easy to maintain.

    Studying a weapon is essential to using it.Just picking one up & trying to use it without learning about it is foolish.

    - The best laid plans turn to crap when you meet the enemy.

    True.~ Hence ~ Adapt, Improvise, Overcome...

    Microsoft failed in all three points.


    If you say so. Now may I ask you what it was that I failed to understand?
    This--- To put it in a nutshell ~ Adapt, Improvise, Overcome.....

    No disrespect towards you intended.
    Windows 8 has issues that do displease some people.
    Finding work-arounds & ways to make the Win 8 experience better is the way to go because Microsoft has its own agenda.
    Peace & love my friend.
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    [QUOTE=medab1;207319]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by medab1 View Post

    If you say so. Now may I ask you what it was that I failed to understand?
    This--- To put it in a nutshell ~ Adapt, Improvise, Overcome.....

    No disrespect towards you intended.
    Windows 8 has issues that do displease some people.
    Finding work-arounds & ways to make the Win 8 experience better is the way to go because Microsoft has its own agenda.
    Peace & love my friend.
    But there shouldn't have to be a need for workarounds. That's what so many have been saying.

    We understand that you can force and beat Windows 8 into submission, to work the way that you want, but how nice it would be if it simply worked with you from the very beginning and asked how you wanted it to perform.

    Then there would be no need for marines or peacekeepers, everyone would get along amicably from the outset.
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    [QUOTE=Ray8;207321][QUOTE=medab1;207319]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post

    But there shouldn't have to be a need for workarounds. That's what so many have been saying.

    We understand that you can force and beat Windows 8 into submission, to work the way that you want, but how nice it would be if it simply worked with you from the very beginning and asked how you wanted it to perform.
    I agree with you.
    But, like I said, Microsoft has its own agenda.
    Windows 8 is what it is.
    We can't do anything about it.
    Except tweak it.
    I have contacted Microsoft asking for changes.
    Maybe they will listen or they won't.
    Lots of people should contact them.
    Numbers count.
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