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Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    FWIW, here is the follow up by the author whs cited. Gee an "article" containing the comments to his original that he likes. ZDNet has few publication standards IMO, although some of its authors are OK to good.
    I just find Windows 8 more cumbersome to work with than Windows 7. And since there are really no new attractive functions for me, I won't use it other than for academic studies in a virtual partition.
    Agreed. That's basically what I think, although Win8 is a perfectly functional OS. I am sticking with my virtual Win8 Pro on my MacBook Pro and second copy of it on my old HP laptop. I bought cheap. The only thing that might make be think twice is if I could steal a Win8 OEM laptop (with UEFI) in anticipation of "Big Blue"--once we get more of an idea about, hopefully, not BooBoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    The standout example in the article for me is when he describes watching his Dad use Windows 8:
    I watched him try and do simple tasks and saw him again and again just floored by Windows 8's odd usability modes. He showed me how double-clicking a photo in his mail software (a normal desktop app) would open up the Metro-style photo viewer. Blam! His whole machine is taken over. Just a picture in the middle of a gray ocean with no clue, nothing to click. Taskbar gone. A close button? No. He was used to clicking on the taskbar to switch apps, used to clicking the close button to dismiss things when it got out of hand. (He'd never used Alt+Tab.) What's he supposed to do at this point, learn Alt+F4 to close a Metro-style app or the utterly undiscoverable mouse-based gesture of dragging a Metro-style container to the floor?
    If you don't know the magic gestures or keystroke shortcuts, how do you know how do get out of that?

    Sure you can Google it, but only once you've figured out how to escape the Metro screen in the first place and get to a browser.

    I think this is why the Start button resurrection utilities are so popular - it gives people an escape route, and a constant interface which is on the screen all the time, by which you can take control again when you're lost. Even the former standard "F1" for help is broken in Metro, and not replaced by anything as far as I can tell.

    People have compared Windows 8 to when the "ribbon" appeared in Office 2007, but the two are very different. With the ribbon, everything moved around, which is a pain for people who'd got used to the previous menus and keyboard shortcuts for the previous 10 years. But at least you can navigate the ribbon and figure it out, and for a user new to Office, I'll take Microsoft's word for it that it's easier.

    Compare that with Metro on a non-touch PC which leaves you no clues on what to do.

    Metro usability is fixable, but has a long way to go.
    Good points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    FWIW, here is the follow up by the author whs cited. Gee an "article" containing the comments to his original that he likes. ZDNet has few publication standards IMO, although some of its authors are OK to good.
    I just find Windows 8 more cumbersome to work with than Windows 7. And since there are really no new attractive functions for me, I won't use it other than for academic studies in a virtual partition.
    Agreed. That's basically what I think, although Win8 is a perfectly functional OS. I am sticking with my virtual Win8 Pro on my MacBook Pro and second copy of it on my old HP laptop. I bought cheap. The only thing that might make be think twice is if I could steal a Win8 OEM laptop (with UEFI) in anticipation of "Big Blue"--once we get more of an idea about, hopefully, not BooBoo.
    I don't expect out much from Blue. I am getting myself prepared for the future studying Linux Mint - a really nice OS. Just made a bunch of tutorials.
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    "I hate Office's Ribbon UI."

    -Said no one ever.
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    Once the flatulence apps start pouring in, things will change, you'll see...
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    Where have you been? could be asked here while most already know the number of 3rd party solutions is increasing just about ten fold daily. Now while most wouldn't rush to pay for one like StarDock's Start8 but go for the freebies like Start Menu 7 or Classic Shell(preferred here) StartDock apparently has something else available that can make some sense when going to run Metro or "Modern" apps. Start8 and MondernMix-- Windows 8's last, best hope for normality on the desktop
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    It makes you wonder why any software company would make programs that allow you to configure and use Windows 8 like it was Windows 7. [sarcasm]I mean, no would want that.[/sarcasm]
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    "I've always wanted to run my new operating system like my old one!"

    -Said rarely anyone ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    "I've always wanted to run my new operating system like my old one!"

    -Said rarely anyone ever.
    But that's not what I said.
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