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Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8?

  1. #21


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    Boy, there's a lot of 90 percenters on this Forum.

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  2. #22


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    IDC I believe reported that many Windows 8 users
    Did they?

    I think they are talking about non users here - the reasons why they will not buy it. Different group. perhaps?
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  3. #23


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    these sort of statistics are like trying to apply complex standard deviation and spread calculations to a set of observations which contain precisely ONE measurement.

    The data sample used in the article is a) likely to be very small and b) certainly won't be a random group of "typical" users.

    It's like those commercials on TV -- Most Women like this cosmetic or find it reduces blemishes. -- If you then check the statistics it will be a sample of around 50 women who probably are getting a small "service" for their participation. (Doesn't have to be cash -- could just be a goodies bag or a free meal etc.)

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  4. #24


    Yea, I need to see hard numbers from scientific, undiluted studies. Although I enjoy and respect the author, I think anyone could write an article or book making statements to justify the means to their own ends. Not saying he's lying. I'm questioning the book. I will research.
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  5. #25


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    these sort of statistics are like trying to apply complex standard deviation and spread calculations to a set of observations which contain precisely ONE measurement.

    The data sample used in the article is a) likely to be very small and b) certainly won't be a random group of "typical" users.

    It's like those commercials on TV -- Most Women like this cosmetic or find it reduces blemishes. -- If you then check the statistics it will be a sample of around 50 women who probably are getting a small "service" for their participation. (Doesn't have to be cash -- could just be a goodies bag or a free meal etc.)

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Jimbo, there are a lot of people who make a curve from 1 measurement point. Isn't that common parctice in statistics, LOL.
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  6. #26


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    these sort of statistics are like trying to apply complex standard deviation and spread calculations to a set of observations which contain precisely ONE measurement.

    The data sample used in the article is a) likely to be very small and b) certainly won't be a random group of "typical" users.

    It's like those commercials on TV -- Most Women like this cosmetic or find it reduces blemishes. -- If you then check the statistics it will be a sample of around 50 women who probably are getting a small "service" for their participation. (Doesn't have to be cash -- could just be a goodies bag or a free meal etc.)

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Jimbo, there are a lot of people who make a curve from 1 measurement point. Isn't that common parctice in statistics, LOL.
    Hi there
    I hope the manufacturer of the next plane I fly on doesn't use those type of Engineers when designing their aircraft or the Pilot finds his way to the airport that way.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #27


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Boy, there's a lot of 90 percenters on this Forum.
    I know right?! Some need to go outside and look at pretty scenery and realize that they're on a forums about a product doing nothing more than hating on the product; then come to the conclusion what a futile waste of time that is when they could do something like.... gardening.
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    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    FWIW, here is the follow up by the author whs cited. Gee an "article" containing the comments to his original that he likes. ZDNet has few publication standards IMO, although some of its authors are OK to good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    FWIW, here is the follow up by the author whs cited. Gee an "article" containing the comments to his original that he likes. ZDNet has few publication standards IMO, although some of its authors are OK to good.
    The user comments are interesting reading. But many show that people don't want to learn. -- that is not my problem. I just find Windows 8 more cumbersome to work with than Windows 7. And since there are really no new attractive functions for me, I won't use it other than for academic studies in a virtual partition.
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  10. #30


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    The standout example in the article for me is when he describes watching his Dad use Windows 8:
    I watched him try and do simple tasks and saw him again and again just floored by Windows 8's odd usability modes. He showed me how double-clicking a photo in his mail software (a normal desktop app) would open up the Metro-style photo viewer. Blam! His whole machine is taken over. Just a picture in the middle of a gray ocean with no clue, nothing to click. Taskbar gone. A close button? No. He was used to clicking on the taskbar to switch apps, used to clicking the close button to dismiss things when it got out of hand. (He'd never used Alt+Tab.) What's he supposed to do at this point, learn Alt+F4 to close a Metro-style app or the utterly undiscoverable mouse-based gesture of dragging a Metro-style container to the floor?
    If you don't know the magic gestures or keystroke shortcuts, how do you know how do get out of that?

    Sure you can Google it, but only once you've figured out how to escape the Metro screen in the first place and get to a browser.

    I think this is why the Start button resurrection utilities are so popular - it gives people an escape route, and a constant interface which is on the screen all the time, by which you can take control again when you're lost. Even the former standard "F1" for help is broken in Metro, and not replaced by anything as far as I can tell.

    People have compared Windows 8 to when the "ribbon" appeared in Office 2007, but the two are very different. With the ribbon, everything moved around, which is a pain for people who'd got used to the previous menus and keyboard shortcuts for the previous 10 years. But at least you can navigate the ribbon and figure it out, and for a user new to Office, I'll take Microsoft's word for it that it's easier.

    Compare that with Metro on a non-touch PC which leaves you no clues on what to do.

    Metro usability is fixable, but has a long way to go.
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