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Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8?

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    Some people are too superficial
    If you keep telling them that - it will definitely make them enamoured and they will rush out and buy it.

    If your product isn't selling - you need to fix it.

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    The article is an example of someone trying to put aside his own prejudices and see the wider picture.

    General thrust of it seems reasonable.

    Funny end statement in jest.
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    90% huh? I guess that's why on most surveys found online about Windows 8 more often than not the "like's Windows 8" usually account for half the votes, or there about. I understand surveys don't account for the majority of the population but it's a number based on actual people voting, not a number pulled put of thin air like this 90%.
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  4. #14


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    The article is an example of someone trying to put aside his own prejudices and see the wider picture.

    General thrust of it seems reasonable.

    Funny end statement in jest.
    Do you mean "the stupid Start Button" or "one less thing to learn"?

    @R0bR. :thumbup:
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    I mean the "stupid start button"

    He clearly understands how important it is and is wording it that way as a joke.

    It is amusing, maybe he is British.

    Like - I have had several chocolates already - oh... go on then, force me - I will have another of the wretched things.

    That is not meant to be taken literally.
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    I don't klnow what the figures are - but if you think 50% like - and 50% don't like - that isn't great for something MS is trying to sell.


    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    90% huh? I guess that's why on most surveys found online about Windows 8 more often than not the "like's Windows 8" usually account for half the votes, or there about. I understand surveys don't account for the majority of the population but it's a number based on actual people voting, not a number pulled put of thin air like this 90%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I mean the "stupid start button"

    He clearly understands how important it is and is wording it that way as a joke.

    It is amusing, maybe he is British.

    Like - I have had several chocolates already - oh... go on then, force me - I will have another of the wretched things.

    That is not meant to be taken literally.
    I think Matt Baxter-Reynolds is British. He is based there. His name seems to be British, but that's neither here nor there. I like this author and respect his view. He realized off the bat what MS is trying to accomplish. I enjoyed his other articles referenced on his author page.

    I have been pretty positive about Windows 8 since about the time the penny dropped and I realized what Microsoft was doing: the PC market is going away, and Microsoft had to produce a product that straddles the PC and post-PC transition.
    Matt Baxter-Reynolds | US | Meet the Team | ZDNet

    I try my best to be open minded and put prejudices aside, especially after raising six children. I had to realize that they are individuals that had their own personalities. They each had their likes and dislikes. This was unlike the generation I was raised by. One had to conform. I'm glad it's a different world today.

    I get the gist of what he is saying from a marketing point of view. One has to create a new product that people will enjoy without too much of a learning curve. I'm beginning to see that the curve is too much for people, if, and only if the 90% is correct. It's not 8 as being a bad product, it's the bigger learning curve is what he is pointing out. I would still like to see the reference to the percentages.

    I find it all hard to believe that it boils down to "the stupid Start Button" (or Orb). The menu remains, just in a different form. A much better form to me.

    I'm afraid I won't be that empathetic for the 90% as he is trying to be. It's plain stubborness to me.

    BTW, I like British humor. I just wasn't sure how to take that. I'm a big fan of Monte Python members, The Circus, and other British shows televized here. Great zany and sarcastic humor!
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    He has got the right idea it sems to me.

    Going on the available information, removing boot to desktop and start menu is causing a problem for 8 sales.

    IMO it is a pretty big problem, keeping quite a lot away from buying it.

    They have other difficulties, too - doubtless, some are buying tablets instead of larger machines, perhaps they are hanging onto their existing lappie and using it at home when needed - the tablet is fine for most things - there is probably an element of that.

    They don't seem to be buying 8 tablets, though. That is another problem, MS haven't positioned them right. They have to compete in that area.

    They need to fix both of those to get this thing off the ground.

    I don't agree with him the consumers are somehow at fault - they don't want to learn and so on.

    He probably enjoys faffing around with tech/computer stuff.

    Most people don't. There is no reason why they should.

    I gave an example on another thread, like this:

    You could buy a laundry liquid that to many people smells vile. You could take it home and experiment putting drops of perfume in and solve it - probably without too much difficulty.

    A few people might enjoy that - a challenge, or puzzle - a sense of achievement, whatever.

    Most people would get a whiff of it and leave it on the shelf. I think that is normal.

    If the manufacturer is aware of the problem ( and he should be ) - yet he shoves it out anyway - then the manufacturer is being stubborn - and he shouldn't be surprised if it doesn't sell in huge amounts.
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    Some people can't tweak & get frustrated with existing Windows 8 features.

    I first got Win 8 & was aghast with Metro & no Start button.

    I added Classic Shell & a few other things like Iconoid, etc.
    (I like yellow desktop icon text)

    I like playing with computer things.
    Windows 8 has plenty to play with & change to suit.

    I think Microsoft did make too many changes at one time to the interface.
    The least they could do is provide a TweakUI for Windows 8.

    If Quaker Oats got rid of the picture of the Quaker on the box, people would not like it.
    The same with the umbrella girl on Morton Salt.---etc.

    Changing too much at one time is, to me, a mistake.

    But, after a while people will get used to the radical changes.

    It's an adventure in learning.
    Learning tweaks & work-arounds expands your knowledge of computer stuff.
    And, the more you learn, the easier it gets.(For me anyways)

    Just my personal thoughts.

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    Here's a conflicting statement.

    IDC I believe reported that many Windows 8 users want a start menu and a facebook app. What?
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