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Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8?

  1. #161


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    But that presupposes that one wishes to learn ...
    ouch! really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    So at the end of the day, he's had to modify the way that he's used to working on a desktop...
    I don't see why anyone should have to do that.
    Linux doesn't require one lick of knowledge or change of how things are done

    Apple is effortless and requires no experience I guess that's why there are Apple Workshops

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    simply to overcome the things that he doesn't like about
    ... Ubuntu, OSX, Open Suse, Slax, Red Hat, Kubuntu, Mint, Vista ... your choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    But that presupposes that one wishes to learn ...
    ouch! really?
    How about you quote my statements fully, so that they remain in context:

    But that presupposes that one wishes to learn keyboard shortcuts,
    That is quite different to just '...wishes to learn...'

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    So at the end of the day, he's had to modify the way that he's used to working on a desktop...
    I don't see why anyone should have to do that.
    Linux doesn't require one lick of knowledge or change of how things are done

    Apple is effortless and requires no experience I guess that's why there are Apple Workshops
    Who said anything about having knowledge about OSes? A completely irrelevant issue. I pointed out that a very experienced Windows user is not using Windows 8 as Microsoft apparently intended and has modified his working methods because of that, especially by reverting to keyboard shortcuts.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    simply to overcome the things that he doesn't like about
    ... Ubuntu, OSX, Open Suse, Slax, Red Hat, Kubuntu, Mint, Vista ... your choice
    In case you missed the point, which I think you have, the article was about Windows 8. Why is it so difficult for some to stay on topic?
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  3. #163


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    It doesn't matter what the (fill in the blank) is about learning. I think the so called experienced Windows user that does not wish to use 8 as it was designed is basically unable to learn. To learn is to acquire skills. Metro blocking is a hack of the OS. It's a shame that so many cannot adapt. It's like they are rebellious children. I don't buy the arguments against the metro UI. Keyboard shortcuts have existed for a long time and have been enhanced in Windows 8. A new OS requires learning how to make it work properly. These metro blocking start menus are training wheels for those that cannot get along without it. If you think you can, get rid of the orb. It's too difficult or an annoyance without it, right? I haven't missed any point. Operating Systems will always have their detractors.
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  4. #164


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    mdmd
    I think the so called experienced Windows user that does not wish to use 8 as it was designed is basically unable to learn
    You think wrong.

    Plenty here are capable of learning things far beyond your capacity.

    Perhaps they just don't like it.

    Are you able to understand that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Plenty here are capable of learning things far beyond your capacity.
    How do you know my capacity? Are you an MCSE, MCP, NET+, A+, BS Computer Science, EMT etc...

    I am.
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    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    It doesn't matter what the (fill in the blank) is about learning. I think the so called experienced Windows user that does not wish to use 8 as it was designed is basically unable to learn. To learn is to acquire skills. Metro blocking is a hack of the OS. It's a shame that so many cannot adapt. It's like they are rebellious children. I don't buy the arguments against the metro UI. Keyboard shortcuts have existed for a long time and have been enhanced in Windows 8. A new OS requires learning how to make it work properly. These metro blocking start menus are training wheels for those that cannot get along without it. If you think you can, get rid of the orb. It's too difficult or an annoyance without it, right? I haven't missed any point. Operating Systems will always have their detractors.
    Read my post #154 in this thread and maybe you will understand where I (and maybe other people) come from.
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    Like I said, I don't buy the arguments against the metro UI. There is no conceivable circumstance during normal operations in which I would characterize going to the apps area or start screen to launch something a pain.
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    Your capacity to understand that people do not like something.

    You must have come across that before.

    That doesn't mean there is something wrong with those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Your capacity to understand that people do not like something. You must have come across that before.
    That doesn't mean there is something wrong with those people.
    That much I agree with and have previously stated. It's fine to not like Windows 8 but as has been stated months ago in other threads, if one does not like it, that doesn't mean it is ineffective, inefficient, or just a junky system. One's point of view might be just that, but that does not make it so.
    Now we enter the realm of philosophy.
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    Here is a postings I just saw on the sevenforums.

    They had it coming, I don't think many people expected it to do well either.

    It's just a weird idea anyhow. After Vista flopped they kinda un-****ed themselves and put out Win 7, but 8 on the otherhand isn't vastly different (like XP > Vista) so it's more like "Windows 7: Retard edition". Other than the fact that it might look pretty on an All-in-One PC, it seems like a rather unnecessary addition to the line of Window's OS's.
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