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Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8?

  1. #111


    Gurgaon
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    Windows 8.1 Single Language


    Thanks a lot Wolfgang for sharing this article. I got a new laptop with Windows 8 pre-installed and I am not much enamoured by it so far.

    To start with I dislike the pre-installed business but all my efforts to get a Windows 8 DVD to do a clean install failed and I don't want to spend a fortune to buy a DVD separately. The laptop doesn't even have a sticker with the Product Key on the bottom. I had to extract it using a third party program.

    My question is that from where can I download a Microsoft approved Windows 8 installation DVD, like it could be done for Windows 7 and use the existing Product Key for activation.

    Amarnath


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Summary: Windows 8 doesn't exactly seem to be setting the world alight. Perhaps the requirement that indifferent users have to sit down and learn their way around something new is causing problems...
    A very interesting article that summarizes a lot of the elements we have been discussing here.

    Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8? | ZDNet

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  2. #112


    I've pretty well stayed out of this thread for the simple reason that it reminds me of four blind men describing an elephant. One grabbed the trunk, one grabbed an ear, one grabbed a leg and one grabbed the tail.

    From my observations the comments about liking and disliking Windows 8 and the - "how shall I say it politely " - bellyaching about the start menu have just about beat these subjects to death. BUT - hey, if people get their Jolly's debating the matters, that's what the forum is for I suppose *( But I'm not too sure ).

    Furthermore there are third party software's available to install the classic start menu. So why keep on harping? It's available, a done deal, issue resolved !

    If there is any 90% it's the majority that don't really understand the OS.

    In the first instance Windows 8 DOES have a start menu similar to Windows 7. In the second instance Win 8 has several features containing similar text menus. In the third instances Win 8 just blows away Win 7. It is head and shoulders above.

    I can only wonder about a poster who says on his second *( 2nd ) day that he has already made up his mind to not like Win 8 !

    It's still a free society. Everyone can make their choice.
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  3. #113


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by junglee View Post
    Thanks a lot Wolfgang for sharing this article. I got a new laptop with Windows 8 pre-installed and I am not much enamoured by it so far.

    To start with I dislike the pre-installed business but all my efforts to get a Windows 8 DVD to do a clean install failed and I don't want to spend a fortune to buy a DVD separately. The laptop doesn't even have a sticker with the Product Key on the bottom. I had to extract it using a third party program.

    My question is that from where can I download a Microsoft approved Windows 8 installation DVD, like it could be done for Windows 7 and use the existing Product Key for activation.

    Amarnath


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Summary: Windows 8 doesn't exactly seem to be setting the world alight. Perhaps the requirement that indifferent users have to sit down and learn their way around something new is causing problems...
    A very interesting article that summarizes a lot of the elements we have been discussing here.

    Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8? | ZDNet
    To my knowledge, there is no place from where you can legally download a Windows 8 .iso. There was a thread at MDL, but it looks like they shut this down. It looks like they really want to lock you in with what they are selling you.
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  4. #114


    Posts : 20
    Windows 8.1 & W10 Tech Priview


    Quote Originally Posted by junglee View Post
    Thanks a lot Wolfgang for sharing this article. I got a new laptop with Windows 8 pre-installed and I am not much enamoured by it so far.

    To start with I dislike the pre-installed business but all my efforts to get a Windows 8 DVD to do a clean install failed and I don't want to spend a fortune to buy a DVD separately. The laptop doesn't even have a sticker with the Product Key on the bottom. I had to extract it using a third party program.

    My question is that from where can I download a Microsoft approved Windows 8 installation DVD, like it could be done for Windows 7 and use the existing Product Key for activation.

    Amarnath


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Summary: Windows 8 doesn't exactly seem to be setting the world alight. Perhaps the requirement that indifferent users have to sit down and learn their way around something new is causing problems...
    A very interesting article that summarizes a lot of the elements we have been discussing here.

    Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8? | ZDNet

    I'm in the same situation, I got a new laptop a few days ago. Been trying to keep an open mind about Metro but so far don't see any advantages for using it on a real PC, but I'm not giving up. I have installed Classic Shell to make things easier using programs I have installed.

    I was surprised to find no COA sticker on the laptop, I will need to find a way to get the Product Key. One of the best things about W7 was being able to download clean install .iso files.

    One reason I bought a Windows 8 computer was to help people that call wanting help with theirs. Now I'm the one needing help!
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  5. #115


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    One reason I bought a Windows 8 computer was to help people that call wanting help with theirs. Now I'm the one needing help!
    Don't dispair, it is not that difficult. Pretty soon you will get the hang of it. But that does not necessarily mean that you will like it - I don't after a full year of using it (off and on). I even bough a ($39.95) license. But now it's gathering dust.
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  6. #116


    Posts : 738
    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    In an instant I found it a rather large disappoinment having hoped MS would have followed 7 with a progressive trend seeing that built upon either further to make the next version a real stand up to match or top what 7 brought in.

    WRONG! Instead they made up a desktop version for Windows RT and pass it if off to the OEMs. And that's precisely what you have only you can still run your Widnows games and apps on the desktop flavor of RT the way it should have been named.

    In addition to the need for 3rd party apps to see a normal functioning desktop OS made out of it again you also weigh what was stripped out of it and making it useless as a second OS here since part of what I would need and readily found even with XP is now gone from 8. So it simply isn't just bypassing the Start screen alone along with a 3rd party Start orb and All Programs menu brought back but other things being looked at here as well as to why I said "No way! Not this time!"

    When a friend bought an 8 laptop of someone who bought into 8 and then wanted to dump it after a few months he had asked if 7 could go on where I had to explain that for a totally new model series they would only have 8 drivers at the support site. If 7 had been replaced with 8 dropping 7 back on wouldn't have been any problem since it was already supported.
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  7. #117


    Posts : 59
    Win 8.1 Pro X64


    Quote Originally Posted by junglee View Post
    Thanks a lot Wolfgang for sharing this article. I got a new laptop with Windows 8 pre-installed and I am not much enamoured by it so far.

    To start with I dislike the pre-installed business but all my efforts to get a Windows 8 DVD to do a clean install failed and I don't want to spend a fortune to buy a DVD separately. The laptop doesn't even have a sticker with the Product Key on the bottom. I had to extract it using a third party program.

    My question is that from where can I download a Microsoft approved Windows 8 installation DVD, like it could be done for Windows 7 and use the existing Product Key for activation.

    Amarnath
    I was in almost the same situation that you are. I won't claim to have the definitive answer but here is what I did:

    First, download and run Belarc Advisor. It will give you a complete inventory of your computer including your Win 8 licence number.

    I also was unable to find a free legitimate Win 8 ISO. Therefore, I used a torrent to download Win 8. The instructions said that it would install a working version of Win 8 Pro or Enterprise but the Win 8 Core version would need a legitimate Windows key. I'm not a fan of pirating but my intention was to do a clean Win 8 Core install and use my own Windows 8 key. I don't believe that this is pirating. (For other reasons, I subsequently talked to MS tech support and told them what I did. The tech didn't seem bothered and the MS cops have not appeared at my door.)

    I did this and it worked.

    HOWEVER.......
    I also bought a Solid State Drive with the intention of moving Win 8 from the HDD to the new SSD.
    My original HDD Win 8 installation was based on a GPT format for a UEFI BIOS. With a lot of help from this forum, I tried but ultimately failed to duplicate this GPT installation on the SSD. I ultimately settled for an old fashioned MBR installation but it is working perfectly.

    If you want a UEFI installation, here is a link to the instructions:
    UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 8 with

    Good Luck!
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  8. #118


    Gurgaon
    Posts : 56
    Windows 8.1 Single Language


    Thank you Dsscottage for your inputs.
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  9. #119


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by junglee View Post
    Thank you Dsscottage for your inputs.
    In my opinion, you're better off cleaning out any rubbish on your laptop uninstall anything you don't want. Then set it up the way you want and use an imaging programme to make an image to use when you want to do a clean install.

    But of course use whatever you feel suits you best.

    There are plenty of instructions on this forum to do that. Try not to listen to too many negative stories about Windows 8 it's not as bad as it seems.
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  10. #120


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    Oh gee.. it's only the core part you need worry about. That's the normal Windows elements you would expect to find in a newer version. The rest is A OK however!

    (can I sell you on a bridge somewhere near Brooklyn, NY.?)
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