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Possibility of retail copy of Windows 8 on TWO machines?

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    Possibility of retail copy of Windows 8 on TWO machines?


    I would like to do a fresh install of Windows 8 to eliminate the bloatware on my Asus N56VZ.

    The notebook came OEM pre-installed with Windows 8 and I know that the Product Key on this notebook resides in the BIOS on the motherboard. My specific question is, If I purchase a new retail copy of Windows 8, can I install the retail copy whenever I want and use the motherboard resident BIOS product key and ALSO install the retail copy on to another different PC using the retail copy supplied Product Keys?

    In other words, can I use the new purchased retail copy of Windows 8 on TWO PC's at the same time? One being the N56VZ with BIOS supplied Product Keys and another PC using the retail copy supplied Product Keys!

    Thanks!

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    my unprofessional opinion is no ,because the bios key will be looking for oem disk ,but i could be wrong, i have never had success in trying to use oem key with a retail copy of windows, only ever tried this with win7 and Vista not with win8
    when i enter the oem key it always tells me not the correct key !but it might be possible if you can choose to skip enter the key section ,,but i dont get that option when installing win8 ,and install win8 then go to change key section and install the oem key ,but i have read that you will need to call Microsoft to activate
    Last edited by caperjack; 03 Mar 2013 at 10:50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixeldust View Post
    I would like to do a fresh install of Windows 8 to eliminate the bloatware on my Asus N56VZ.

    The notebook came OEM pre-installed with Windows 8 and I know that the Product Key on this notebook resides in the BIOS on the motherboard. My specific question is, If I purchase a new retail copy of Windows 8, can I install the retail copy whenever I want and use the motherboard resident BIOS product key and ALSO install the retail copy on to another different PC using the retail copy supplied Product Keys?

    In other words, can I use the new purchased retail copy of Windows 8 on TWO PC's at the same time? One being the N56VZ with BIOS supplied Product Keys and another PC using the retail copy supplied Product Keys!

    Thanks!
    Are you talking about using retail upgrade software or system builder software? I am going to assume the first for now.

    On each machine, you would need to forfeit a product key for qualifying software IMO. But, my understanding is that the qualifying software need not be installed. So, if you have two qualifying software product keys to forfeit, then I think that what you want to do sounds pretty OK EULA-wise. This situation seems akin to having two retail upgrade product keys and downloading/using the same ISO for use in upgrading on two machines--forfeiting a qualifying product key in each case. There is a "small" technical difference, but I can't put my finger on any implied EULA violation.

    Note that you could downgrade the OEM/Win8 Preinstalled machine to Win7 before doing the upgrade if you have a Win7 product key to forfeit Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7. Doing so might make the whole process go more smoothly. In qualifying systems are not installed, then you also might need to activate one, or the other, of the machines using the refresh procedure described here: Clean Install with Windows 8 Upgrade.

    Personally, I'd try what you want using MS system builder software installed under the personal-use license. This way I'd, as far as possible, be out from under the thumbs of both MS and your OEM.

    Note that I am not saying that you will be able to accomplish what you want on the OEM machine physically. But, others apparently have had success in doing what you want on OEM/Preinstalled Win8 machines.
    Last edited by znod; 03 Mar 2013 at 12:50.
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    for me when i tried to use oem key with retail copies of windows,full version not upgrades . ,it always says wrong key .
    having said that i only ever tried with win7 and vista.xp ,i don't have a machine with oem win8 on it to try . i speak from experience ,not with expertize
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    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    for me when i tried to use oem key with retail copies of windows,full version not upgrades . ,it always says wrong key .
    having said that i only ever tried with win7 and vista.xp ,i don't have a machine with oem win8 on it to try . i speak from experience ,not with expertize
    I see. I had thought that earlier you had tried having an OEM key from an OEM/Preinstalled Win8 machine work, but apparently not. I take it that the OEM key you tried was not embedded, right? If yes, then I think your case doesn't imply much for the OP. But, he should still think things out carefully in this regard--allowing a way to get back to where he started if possible on the OEM.
    Last edited by znod; 03 Mar 2013 at 12:41.
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    My oh my, oh my.

    Do I understand ?

    If you want to wipe your OEM computer use the system restore disc that you made *( Didn't you ! ).

    Or get a system restore disc from you computer manufacturer. Or just use one of the Win 8 features.

    It will take off everything and leave you with your computer just like the day you bought it.
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    [QUOTE=znod;201923]
    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    f
    I take it that the OEM key you tried was not embedded, right? .
    i think you are likely right ,
    i will shutup right now .lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    My oh my, oh my.

    Do I understand ?

    If you want to wipe your OEM computer use the system restore disc that you made *( Didn't you ! ).

    Or get a system restore disc from you computer manufacturer. Or just use one of the Win 8 features.

    It will take off everything and leave you with your computer just like the day you bought it.
    Yes, to be safe I right away created a system restore disk! ... Actually, I made a bootable 16GB USB flash recovery drive which has a recovery partition! The problem with that would be if I were to recover back to the factory setup I would then have all the bloatware installed which is what I am trying to avoid.

    What I am really trying to achieve is a CLEAN install on to my pre-installed Windows 8 OEM notebook. I want the clean install without all the bloatware.

    I would really like to find a reliable and safe Windows 8 ISO to install cleanly on the machine and then I could use the Asus supplied Drivers & Utilities disk to cherry pick the stuff I want without all the bloatware. However, I can't seem to fine a reliable source for the Windows 8 ISO so with that hassle I figured it would be nice to have the real deal retail media to load anytime I want to do another clean install.

    What I am actually doing is removing the Asus OEM installed 750GB HDD 7200 rpm drive after creating a bootable USB flash recovery drive for it and storing it away. I am then installing a new Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD to replace the HDD.

    I was hoping to install Windows 8 cleanly on to the new SSD and then install all the required utilities and drivers using the Asus supplied disk. I was hoping to avoid using the new retail copy of Windows 8 product keys in hopes that I could use the retail product keys on another PC that currently has Windows 7 on it. My ultimate hope was that I could use the resident product keys embedded on the Asus BIOS and install the retail copy OS and save the product keys on the retail copy to install the OS again for use on a second machine.

    Anyhow, I hope I have not confused anyone with my long verbiage! I hope you can get the intent of what I am trying to achieve!


    Thanks!


    ...Glenn
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    why not just uninstall the bloatware ,most of it east to spot in control panel/programs. or you could try pc Decrapafier,safe to try and get a list of programs to pick from .
    Last edited by caperjack; 03 Mar 2013 at 12:21. Reason: to remove link,program i linked not reall much help
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixeldust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    My oh my, oh my.

    Do I understand ?

    If you want to wipe your OEM computer use the system restore disc that you made *( Didn't you ! ).

    Or get a system restore disc from you computer manufacturer. Or just use one of the Win 8 features.

    It will take off everything and leave you with your computer just like the day you bought it.
    Yes, to be safe I right away created a system restore disk! ... Actually, I made a bootable 16GB USB flash recovery drive which has a recovery partition! The problem with that would be if I were to recover back to the factory setup I would then have all the bloatware installed which is what I am trying to avoid.

    What I am really trying to achieve is a CLEAN install on to my Windows 8 OEM pre-installed notebook. I want the clean install without all the bloatware.

    I would really like to find a reliable and safe Windows 8 ISO to install cleanly on the machine and then I could use the Asus supplied Drivers & Utilities disk to cherry pick the stuff I want without all the bloatware. However, I can't seem to fine a reliable source for the Windows 8 ISO so with that hassle I figured it would be nice to have the real deal retail media to load anytime I want to do another clean install.

    What I am actually doing is removing the Asus OEM installed 750GB HDD 7200 rpm drive after creating a bootable USB flash recovery drive for it and storing it away. I am then installing a new Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD to replace the HDD.

    I was hoping to install Windows 8 cleanly on to the new SSD and then install all the required utilities and drivers using the Asus supplied disk. I was hoping to avoid using the new retail copy of Windows 8 product keys in hopes that I could use the retail product keys on another PC that currently has Windows 7 on it. My ultimate hope was that I could use the resident product keys embedded on the Asus BIOS and install the retail copy OS and save the product keys on the retail copy to install the OS again for use on a second machine.

    Anyhow, I hope I have not confused anyone with my long verbiage! I hope you can get the intent of what I am trying to achieve!


    Thanks!


    ...Glenn
    I would just try and see if it would install and work you have nothing to loose but time. The disk need to be the same version of windows that is installed on the box and not an upgrade disk. Do not use your new key on your oem box.
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