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Replacement Start Menus - Consensus of opinion

  1. #11


    The post opener asks for an opinion.

    The old adage you can't teach an old dog new tricks isn't valid. I love new tricks.


    The problems I have in amending Windows 8 from it's origin, with 3rd party software, is that it is just that - amended, modified. Although I'm happy to hear that some users are not experiencing problems with the amended start menu, for myself Windows 8 already has enough problems on it's own and lots of defects that haven't already been remedied yet.

    There can't be any doubt that introducing and installing such software changes lots and lots of parameters. It's intrusive, it does things to the registry, it will void warranty's, it will go out of the mainstream of trouble shooting and fixes designed by Microsoft.

    Personally I like Windows 8 Metro. It's much easier for me than the classic style. Further I have a second touch pad keyboard that I use to practice the finger movements.

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    It's intrusive, it does things to the registry, it will void warranty's, it will go out of the mainstream of trouble shooting and fixes designed by Microsoft.
    Most programs make some changes to the registry so what makes these Start Menu/Button programs so unique that "their" specific changes would cause a "void in warranty?"
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  3. #13


    tried a few and prefer startmenu 8, better in my view than classicscreen
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Is there a consensus of opinion as to which is the best restoration start menu, and which one most most closely resembles the original Win7 Orb Start Men
    As mentioned in an earlier post StartisBack uses the original W7 coding that was left behind in W8 and it is the real deal, no issues with boot times and is not affected by updates. I'm surprised you haven't already tried it, it has a 30 day trial.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    Most programs make some changes to the registry so what makes these Start Menu/Button programs so unique that "their" specific changes would cause a "void in warranty?"
    I have no idea what he is talking about, loading a prog will not void PC warranty's especially OS warranty's if you build your own lol! He seems to be a hardcore advocate of the Metro clutter and charms bar kludging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by norepli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    It's intrusive, it does things to the registry, it will void warranty's, it will go out of the mainstream of trouble shooting and fixes designed by Microsoft.
    Most programs make some changes to the registry so what makes these Start Menu/Button programs so unique that "their" specific changes would cause a "void in warranty?"
    What is this all about? I don't see what program... it can be a bad program.

    EDIT: I guess he talks about the Ex7forW8 mod found in the OP's post.
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    All I want to do is to "replace" the functionality "lost" when MS decided not to have a Win8-relevant start menu. I don't want to use an alternative that changes the way Win8 works if possible. In this regard, I don't want to use anything that will cause much of a system drain.

    So, what is best for me is to use the taskbar-toolbar approach. See snip below. My Apps toolbar contains a few more items one would need to be able to scroll to see. It contains a shortcut to everything I might conceivably want to access from a start menu (and actually to some I items I am not using at all right now). I could prevent the possibility of having to scroll by omitting a few never, or virtually never, used items. And, of course, I shore some things up using desktop icons (which I use a great deal) and pinned-to-taskbar apps. One of my pinned items is the all apps shortcut (i.e., goes to all apps in metro) covered in our tutorials.

    Note that my snip shows a Programs toolbar also. I don't use it; just made it to see how it works given a tutorial that deals with such. Also, note that folders can be placed in taskbar toolbars for categorization or whatever. And, for categorization, several toolbars can be used if one wants.

    In sum, what works for me is something that really doesn't change Win8, but still gives me what I need.

    FYI, note that I am running the Win8 installation in my snip virtually from my MacBook Pro using Parallels. It works a treat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by norepli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    It's intrusive, it does things to the registry, it will void warranty's, it will go out of the mainstream of trouble shooting and fixes designed by Microsoft.
    Most programs make some changes to the registry so what makes these Start Menu/Button programs so unique that "their" specific changes would cause a "void in warranty?"
    Not an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    All I want to do is to "replace" the functionality "lost" when MS decided not to have a Win8-relevant start menu. I don't want to use an alternative that changes the way Win8 works if possible. In this regard, I don't want to use anything that will cause much of a system drain.

    So, what is best for me is to use the taskbar-toolbar approach. See snip below. My Apps toolbar contains a few more items one would need to be able to scroll to see. It contains a shortcut to everything I might conceivably want to access from a start menu (and actually to some I items I am not using at all right now). I could prevent the possibility of having to scroll by omitting a few never, or virtually never, used items. And, of course, I shore some things up using desktop icons (which I use a great deal) and pinned-to-taskbar apps. One of my pinned items is the all apps shortcut (i.e., goes to all apps in metro) covered in our tutorials.

    Note that my snip shows a Programs toolbar also. I don't use it; just made it to see how it works given a tutorial that deals with such. Also, note that folders can be placed in taskbar toolbars for categorization or whatever. And, for categorization, several toolbars can be used if one wants.

    In sum, what works for me is something that really doesn't change Win8, but still gives me what I need.
    Doesn't the toolbar drain anything from speed at start-up (list gets loaded and refreshed on click)?

    By the way: nice wallpaper.
    Is it Mount Fuji?
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    I use Start8 from Stardock and have had no trouble at all. Look and feel is exactly like Win 7 which is what I want (for now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    All I want to do is to "replace" the functionality "lost" when MS decided not to have a Win8-relevant start menu. I don't want to use an alternative that changes the way Win8 works if possible. In this regard, I don't want to use anything that will cause much of a system drain.

    So, what is best for me is to use the taskbar-toolbar approach. See snip below. My Apps toolbar contains a few more items one would need to be able to scroll to see. It contains a shortcut to everything I might conceivably want to access from a start menu (and actually to some I items I am not using at all right now). I could prevent the possibility of having to scroll by omitting a few never, or virtually never, used items. And, of course, I shore some things up using desktop icons (which I use a great deal) and pinned-to-taskbar apps. One of my pinned items is the all apps shortcut (i.e., goes to all apps in metro) covered in our tutorials.

    Note that my snip shows a Programs toolbar also. I don't use it; just made it to see how it works given a tutorial that deals with such. Also, note that folders can be placed in taskbar toolbars for categorization or whatever. And, for categorization, several toolbars can be used if one wants.

    In sum, what works for me is something that really doesn't change Win8, but still gives me what I need.
    Doesn't the toolbar drain anything from speed at start-up (list gets loaded and refreshed on click)?

    By the way: nice wallpaper.
    Is it Mount Fuji?
    Thanks on the wallpaper. And, Fuji, not sure, but it looks like it. I am sure the toolbar requires use of some system resources, but I'd think not as many/much probably as a third-party start-menu replacement. I have never noticed any kind of a startup slowdown, but that would be pretty much impossible to document anyway. I never notice a delay when accessing the toolbar virtually, but, on my brick and mortar Win8 installation, I sometimes note a small delay in accessing it.
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