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I'm in over my head. Please help.

  1. #11


    Phil:

    There ya go good Buddy. A library starter kit.

    I have Win 8 all over the place.

    You missed many of my posts. I'm an old curmudgeon who has used every Microsoft OS since 1983.


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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    Phil:

    There ya go good Buddy. A library starter kit.

    I have Win 8 all over the place.

    You missed many of my posts. I'm an old curmudgeon who has used every Microsoft OS since 1983.

    I'll pass on the first two, Windows 7 is working great for me. If Windows 8 changes or releases a service pack to make it more like a Windows 7 experience, I might install it.

    I build my own computers.

    I have the fourth, or had. It might have been sold.

    I too have been around computers for a while. Cassette tape data storage, 1200 baud modems, 5 1/4", BBS cosysop etc. Even had a usenet account in like 6th grade. I am also a card holding member of the curmudgeon club but haven't meet the minimum requirements for the old club yet.
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  3. #13


    Posts : 120
    windows 8 pro


    Stop this please, it's making me realize I'm old......
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  4. #14


    It seems that many are trying to help by teaching an old dog new tricks; however, some of us old dogs (like myself) don't want to learn new tricks so from one old dog to another, I offer the following advice:

    Follow bassfisher6522's advice and if that doesn't work for you, maybe you can downgrade to Windows 7 but I would not recommend going back to Vista.

    Cheers!
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  5. #15

    Nein, won't happen


    Quote Originally Posted by easyq View Post
    Stop this please, it's making me realize I'm old......
    Are you kidding.

    As another old fart, I'm dragging you kicking and screaming into century 22
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  6. #16


    Posts : 740
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by norepli View Post
    It seems that many are trying to help by teaching an old dog new tricks; however, some of us old dogs (like myself) don't want to learn new tricks so from one old dog to another, I offer the following advice:

    Follow bassfisher6522's advice and if that doesn't work for you, maybe you can downgrade to Windows 7 but I would not recommend going back to Vista.

    Cheers!
    This.

    Taking the time to learn a new system is fine and dandy, but in the mean time it leaves you with no clue as to how to use your current system.

    Start8 (or Start menu 8 if you're cheap) will make Windows 8 run as close to Windows 7 as possible, and you can set it to override Windows 8 features with a Windows 7 like version.

    As you get more used to the system you can disable the overrides and try out the new Windows features, but it the meantime it allows you to use your system.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    As another old fart, I'm dragging you kicking and screaming into century 22
    Are you sure about that?

    Ever considered it might actually be going backwards.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 120
    windows 8 pro


    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by easyq View Post
    Stop this please, it's making me realize I'm old......
    Are you kidding.

    As another old fart, I'm dragging you kicking and screaming into century 22
    Trust me, I'm already there
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  9. #19


    Portsmouth Hants
    Posts : 772
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    As another 60 something with desktop experience since MS-DOS in the mid 1980s, I have no problem with Windows 8 as a desktop OS, no longing to have a start menu or !

    I prefer 8 to 7, use the mouse less and the keyboard hotkey combinations more. I turn my laptop off rarely, using sleep almost exclusively, only turning off and restarting when updates or installations require it. I have a shortcut to shutdown -r -t 0 pinned to the taskbar.

    8 starts faster and connects to the network faster. I don't even bother to turn off UAC now, it is just less invasive than with 7 or Vista, as are the Windows updates which allow 3 days before automatic restart. I use netplwiz to allow autologon, and do not require a password on waking on my personal machine.

    I use +x for basic management tasks, and if I want to use something a little more low-level, like regedit, I hit , type regedit, and hit <enter> instead of (with mouse), point to the search box and click (with mouse) and then type regedit <enter>.

    I don't visit the desktop much now either, but if there are programs I may need to use on occasion, I drop a shortcut on the desktop, and use the taskbar Desktop toolbar to locate the link.

    One thing I always do with the start screen is to place the desktop link at the upper left of the first block of tiles, and to uninstall or remove all tiles I do not want. I find most apps do not work well, are slow to start, and I prefer not to use them, only the desktop versions of say IE10 (I rarely use IE, I prefer Chrome, Opera or Firefox), MSTSC (Remote Desktop - MicroSoft Terminal Services Client), Adobe Reader, Media Player, although I keep the Weather app and visit the Store in case something useful arrives, and to run the updates for the apps I have kept, just in case they are found to be insecure.

    All this H8 is futile - It is just the latest Windows with yet another shell, just like you can run a Windows cmd shell console, a DOS Command shell console and a Powershell console, as well as specific virtual machines.

    8 is just a very versatile advanced OS, not yet perfect. Rather than customisability, Microsoft has chosen versatility for this version, and wants the users to learn the different ways of doing things. Those users who prefer the old ways of working are not the users that Microsoft wants to encourage - Windows XP nearly was the end for Microsoft as a profit drain - they will not allow it to happen again.

    I like to be free to choose, to do the things I am comfortable about choosing to do, and I see many things in Windows 8 that I could object about in this regard, but I also see the need to move on. I can still run DOS and XP and Linux either as dual boot or as virtual machines, even dual-booting VMs, if needed. Like so many limited value third-party utilities and customisations, I don't see the need for a replacement start menu button or to disable the charms bar - I need neither, and see them very infrequently now.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 60
    W8 Inspiron 17R W8P+MCE HTPC


    Quote Originally Posted by DJJ View Post
    Hi all, new guy here and I'd appreciate some help or advice.

    I recently purchased a new Dell Inspiron 17R that came with Windows 8. While the laptop is fine and is actually more than I need, all is not well with the Windows 8 operating system.

    I'm an old guy but have been using PCs for 25 years and have never had a problem with newer systems until now. The Windows 8 OS is simply not intuitive enough for me. I don't even own a smartphone or any Bluetooth devices, so much of the terminology and navigation is frustrating.

    I'm retired, have lots of time on my hands and have been really trying to "get it" for a couple of weeks.

    It ain't working for me.

    I really, really would like to install Windows Vista on this thing so I can actually use it instead of spending hours and hours trying to "figure it out".

    Is it even possible to "downgrade" to an old OS?


    Thank you.
    If you really want to get back to ease of navigation you need to get this little gem StartIsBack - real start menu in Windows 8. It's the real deal for the start button they use the existing code left behind in 8. 30 day trial but believe me just pay the three dollars it is sooo worth it. Plus the activation key is good for two PC's.
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