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    I'm on a five-year-old Macbook that runs slowly. Still better than Windows 8.

    Extremely Upsetting


    I grew up (well, relatively - I'm pretty young) using Windows in various flavors. About five years ago, I saved up enough to get a Macbook. I was very happy with the Macbook and it worked quite well. I don't necessarily privilege Mac over PC. I'm just saying that at the time, the Mac was best for me.

    Now it is five years later. The Mac was pretty tough, so it's still trucking. But slow, and things freeze a lot. I can still run Photoshop and Skype, Firefox and iChat. Still, I needed a new computer. I figured I needed to start the process of saving for another Mac again, and that this one would need to keep running for at least another year.

    I went on a cruise with my family in early January on the Carnival Legend. There was a raffle on the boat, and I entered. My surprise, a few weeks later I was told I had won a new computer. I was overjoyed and couldn't wait for it to be delivered. I had fantasies of Photoshop working faster and running Second Life, Skype calls with group video, things like that.

    Well, it arrived.

    It has Windows 8.

    I am so disappointed I can barely look at the thing. I tried to get some simple programs up and running but accidentally ended up merging my mom's Microsoft account with my own Skype account (luckily, I could unmerge them). To do the simplest of things I have to google them, and Googling is nearly impossible because tabbed browsing doesn't seem to work, being that the website is full-screen. Also, the only thing that seems to resemble a back button does not work. I tried going to Desktop mode, but the only program that could be launched from there was Internet Explorer, and I had to google how to get back to the main screen. Some of the instructions I got from Google were patently wrong, as well.

    My mom paid for everyone to go on the cruise, so, by extension, she is responsible for me getting the laptop. She really, really wants me to like it. She keeps saying "You'll get used to it." I want to believe her (and also not disappoint her by being an ungrateful leech), but I don't know what to do. I mentioned having a friend wipe the whole thing and install Linux, and she begged me not to do it. I'm going to try to broach the topic of wiping it and installing 7 (which I have worked with before), but if she has an equally histrionic reaction to that, what should I do?

    Is there any way to make 8 more like 7? Get rid of this nonsense where you have to google everything before you can do it? Tabbed browsing the old-fashioned way?

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  2. #2


    Oregon
    Posts : 214
    Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center, Windows RT


    Couple of things.

    First, on this forum you’ll find those who really like Win8 and those who don’t. Those who don’t are generally not very helpful. Their advice is often to get rid of Win8, but it is a very powerful, stable, fast and secure OS.

    I like Win8, but as with all new things, there is a learning curve. But if you think of it like Win7 with a different start menu, you’ll find it much easier to use. So, with that mindset, when you boot Win8 its goes immediately to the new start screen. Just click on the desktop tile and you are now at your desktop like Win7. I do 90% of all my work from here and never have to deal with the new start screen. There is not much you can’t do from here that you didn’t do in Win7.

    To make it even more like Win7, install one of the many Start Button replacement apps like Start8: Start8™ for Windows® 8 - Bringing back the Windows Start menu . I used this for the first month until I knew my way around Win8. I’ve since removed it.

    Here is a good tutorial on Win8 that I found very helpful: The Missing Windows 8 Instructional Video - Who moved my Windows 8 Cheese? - YouTube

    One last tip, when in an app or the start menu and uncertain, right click. Amazing what you can do from there.
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    You can also install Firefox on the desktop and get back to something you are used to.
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  4. #4


    HAHAHA!

    Best
    Story
    Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Well, it arrived.

    It has Windows 8.
    I can hear the screeching-to-a-halt music score as I read those lines.

    Tough luck man.

    You might have some downgrade rights or you could always pick up a copy of Windows 7 and do a wipe and reinstall. Maybe sell the rights to a sequel of your story. This could be an upbeat early summer blockbuster.

    <cue movie announcer voice> "From the lows of Windows 8 arises new hope. An uplifting story of the downgrade installation of Windows 7."

    I'd watch it.
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  5. #5


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Don't you just love these guys. . .

    Now normally when someone new comes to this or the Seven Forums I like to give them a big welcome, albeit when they come here to just whine about how bad win 8 is there will be no big welcome just "Here comes another one" . . .
    Last edited by Lee; 14 Feb 2013 at 19:35.
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  6. #6


    Posts : 446
    Win 8 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Is there any way to make 8 more like 7? Get rid of this nonsense where you have to google everything before you can do it? Tabbed browsing the old-fashioned way?
    1) From the Start Page (press Windows Key on keyboard to open/close Start Page) start typing 'Control Panel', then right click on it and select 'pin to start'.

    2) Open Control Panel and in the top right corner where it says 'view by', select 'small icons'.

    3) Go to Control Panel > Internet Options > Programs and select 'Always Open Internet Explorer on the Desktop' and also tick 'Open Internet Explorer Tiles on the Desktop'.

    4) Go to Control Panel > Default Programs > 'Set your default programs' and set the default programs you want to open different file types (instead of them opening in Metro Apps).

    5) Go to Start Page, right click the icons you don't want on the Start Page and select 'unpin from start'

    6) Go to Start Page, right click on the background then go to 'all apps' in the bottom right corner. Go through what you want pinned to the Start Page, right click on ones you do and select 'pin to start'.

    In short, you can ignore Metro Apps altogether and just use the Start Page as a Start Menu for launching programs. If you really want a start button, then there are lots of programs out there to bring it back such as Classic Shell.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 376
    W8.1, W7


    hahahaha++ reminds me of my first 'date' with w8, shock & abomination. Now, as mentioned in posts above, it can be used like w7, am using Classic Shell and installed all the usual programs etc, never need to use or see any of the ugly tiles and all the other mess, and it works well and is fast. Once having gone past the initial consternation, try adjusting and modify it to your liking (and if not happy, install w7).
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  8. #8


    Posts : 3
    I'm on a five-year-old Macbook that runs slowly. Still better than Windows 8.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Don't you just love these guys. . .

    Now normally when someone new comes to this or the Seven Forums I like to give them a big welcome, albeit when they come here to just whine about how bad win 8 is the will be no big welcome just "Here comes another one" . . .
    I'm not whining; I am entitled to my opinion. I read the rules of the forum, and liking Windows 8 is not a prerequisite for being here. On the other hand, if you yourself are able to use and enjoy 8, more power to you, and I wish you success in your future computing. It's quite possible that you simply learn quicker than I do.
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  9. #9


    Posts : 3
    I'm on a five-year-old Macbook that runs slowly. Still better than Windows 8.


    Quote Originally Posted by ARC1020 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Is there any way to make 8 more like 7? Get rid of this nonsense where you have to google everything before you can do it? Tabbed browsing the old-fashioned way?
    1) From the Start Page (press Windows Key on keyboard to open/close Start Page) start typing 'Control Panel', then right click on it and select 'pin to start'.

    2) Open Control Panel and in the top right corner where it says 'view by', select 'small icons'.

    3) Go to Control Panel > Internet Options > Programs and select 'Always Open Internet Explorer on the Desktop' and also tick 'Open Internet Explorer Tiles on the Desktop'.

    4) Go to Control Panel > Default Programs > 'Set your default programs' and set the default programs you want to open different file types (instead of them opening in Metro Apps).

    5) Go to Start Page, right click the icons you don't want on the Start Page and select 'unpin from start'

    6) Go to Start Page, right click on the background then go to 'all apps' in the bottom right corner. Go through what you want pinned to the Start Page, right click on ones you do and select 'pin to start'.

    In short, you can ignore Metro Apps altogether and just use the Start Page as a Start Menu for launching programs. If you really want a start button, then there are lots of programs out there to bring it back such as Classic Shell.
    Thank you so much!
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  10. #10


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    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Check out the threads below; they may help some. It's hard to find something that says everything you might like to know all in one place. Posting these links is my best, but undoubtedly inadequate, attempt. They probably will help if you want to begin using Windows 8 in a manner that pretty familiar to you.

    On (Almost) Using Only the Desktop
    and

    Share Win8 Tutorial-Related Improvements for Mutal Benefit
    .

    Be sure and install the browser of your choice, and use it from the desktop. Leave IE as the default; doing otherwise can make for unanticipated problems. If you want to use IE from the desktop, then go desktop > start IE > Go gear icon > Internet options > Programs > Open internet explorer tiles on the desktop.

    Believe me; the desktop is your friend (check out what my desktop and start screen look like in the second link above). Also, quickly learn the basic key combos I mention toward the end of the second link.
    Last edited by znod; 14 Feb 2013 at 16:30.
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