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  1. #21


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Don't you just love these guys. . .

    Now normally when someone new comes to this or the Seven Forums I like to give them a big welcome, albeit when they come here to just whine about how bad win 8 is the will be no big welcome just "Here comes another one" . . .
    I'm not whining; I am entitled to my opinion. I read the rules of the forum, and liking Windows 8 is not a prerequisite for being here. On the other hand, if you yourself are able to use and enjoy 8, more power to you, and I wish you success in your future computing. It's quite possible that you simply learn quicker than I do.
    To put it simply you are whining. Instead of taking time to learn the new way Microsoft is heading you come here to tell all of us (uneducated) how mean and nasty they are by forcing us to use this crap OS called Windows 8.

    Why not come and start by asking questions that might just help you to understand the direction Microsoft is going, and what you need to do to help make using the new OS a good experience.

    There are many really good people that are willing to give you all the help you need at no cost, and must of these people will go out of there way to research and help you find what you are looking for without nothing more then your thanks. There are tons of tutorials on the forums that can be used to help make your experience with Windows 8 a little smoother and easier to learn.

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  2. #22


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Two hotspots, left and right corner, right mouse button on Start Screen, all Apps, there's you're Start Menu or whatever they used to call it in the old days. Escape back to Start Screen.

    One click to Desktop, left corner back to Start Screen. Don't close Apps down and just go to left side of screen to switch between Apps.

    On Start Screen type what you're looking for, anything at all. Windows 8 in a nutshell, two minutes.

    Ive got Crome and Firefox running as well, never use them though, just a hangover from the old outdated Windows 7 days.
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  3. #23


    Posts : 446
    Win 8 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    What I don't get (referring to the forum in general, not just this post) is that even those who dislike the Start Screen seem to think that simply because it's the first screen that appears, you are therefore obligated to USE it as the gateway to every other screen.
    It's not about being obliged to use it, I personally find it more organised.

    With shortcuts it's up to the user where they decide to put them, they can put them where-ever they want to (unless they work for a corporation, as they will probably be locked out of saving to Desktop, to stop people saving things there instead of on networked drives).
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  4. #24


    Oregon
    Posts : 214
    Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center, Windows RT


    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    What I don't get (referring to the forum in general, not just this post) is that even those who dislike the Start Screen seem to think that simply because it's the first screen that appears, you are therefore obligated to USE it as the gateway to every other screen.

    The suggestions made here will work all right. But if you're going to use only (or almost only) Desktop apps, why use the Start Screen as a place to launch them from? It just means you have to keep switching back and forth between the Desktop and Start Screen all day. That's not making Windows 8 anything like Windows 7.

    The way to make Windows 8 more like Windows 7 is to use it just as if the whole Metro environment, including the Start Screen, simply doesn't exist. Put icons on the Desktop or Taskbar for everything you use. The only time you have to see the Start Screen is when you turn the power on. Then you just go to the Desktop and stay there. The Start Screen is your gateway to the Desktop, and the Desktop is your gateway to everything else. You don't have pin or unpin any tiles; just ignore all the tiles. Let them be there if they want to. The Desktop is your world.
    Well said.
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  5. #25


    Quote Originally Posted by rmeigs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    What I don't get (referring to the forum in general, not just this post) is that even those who dislike the Start Screen seem to think that simply because it's the first screen that appears, you are therefore obligated to USE it as the gateway to every other screen.

    The suggestions made here will work all right. But if you're going to use only (or almost only) Desktop apps, why use the Start Screen as a place to launch them from? It just means you have to keep switching back and forth between the Desktop and Start Screen all day. That's not making Windows 8 anything like Windows 7.

    The way to make Windows 8 more like Windows 7 is to use it just as if the whole Metro environment, including the Start Screen, simply doesn't exist. Put icons on the Desktop or Taskbar for everything you use. The only time you have to see the Start Screen is when you turn the power on. Then you just go to the Desktop and stay there. The Start Screen is your gateway to the Desktop, and the Desktop is your gateway to everything else. You don't have pin or unpin any tiles; just ignore all the tiles. Let them be there if they want to. The Desktop is your world.
    Well said.
    If your doing all this, just install Windows 7. This is like buying a new car and then making it look and run like the old car. it makes no sence. There are no great advantages for windows 8 on a normal desktop, touch screen or tablet YES.

    If its not broke, don't try and fix it! Thats my advice to Microsoft.
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  6. #26


    Oh dear me !

    Listen to Mom.

    Unfortunately some people apparently think they can learn by osmosis. Anyone who wants to learn Windows 8 isn't going to do so without help. It's so incredibly simple.

    Go to the book store.
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  7. #27


    Oregon
    Posts : 214
    Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center, Windows RT


    Quote Originally Posted by shanerlb View Post
    If your doing all this, just install Windows 7. This is like buying a new car and then making it look and run like the old car. it makes no sence.(sic)
    On the contrary, Windows 8 boots faster, has better speed and performance on older hardware, is more secure, integrate SkyDrive (which I use), and has some cool features like Restore PC and Instant Search.

    If its not broke, don't try and fix it!
    If we adopted that attitude there would never be any innovation -- The iPad wasn't broken, why introduce the iPad mini; Windows XP wasn't broken, why develop Windows 7; my 1955 Chevy ran just fine, why develop a better car. I applaud Microsoft for responding to a changing market with innovation. Only time will tell if it was the right innovation.
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  8. #28


    Quote Originally Posted by rmeigs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shanerlb View Post
    If your doing all this, just install Windows 7. This is like buying a new car and then making it look and run like the old car. it makes no sence.(sic)
    On the contrary, Windows 8 boots faster, has better speed and performance on older hardware, is more secure, integrate SkyDrive (which I use), and has some cool features like Restore PC and Instant Search.

    If its not broke, don't try and fix it!
    If we adopted that attitude there would never be any innovation -- The iPad wasn't broken, why introduce the iPad mini; Windows XP wasn't broken, why develop Windows 7; my 1955 Chevy ran just fine, why develop a better car. I applaud Microsoft for responding to a changing market with innovation. Only time will tell if it was the right innovation.
    Faster boot times are about 10 sec, windows 8 18 seconds window 7 26-27, yes it does have greater security stopping virus's loading in the boot sector and its own AV built in. Thats all good but you could have done this on windows 7. Sky drive, drop box great!.

    I'm not against change, far from it, but to do something so raddical as this, no wonder the project leader of windows 8 left microsoft two weeks after release. was he pushed because of poor sales?
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  9. #29


    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I am so disappointed I can barely look at the thing. I tried to get some simple programs up and running but accidentally ended up merging my mom's Microsoft account with my own Skype account (luckily, I could unmerge them). To do the simplest of things I have to google them, and Googling is nearly impossible because tabbed browsing doesn't seem to work, being that the website is full-screen. Also, the only thing that seems to resemble a back button does not work. I tried going to Desktop mode, but the only program that could be launched from there was Internet Explorer, and I had to google how to get back to the main screen. Some of the instructions I got from Google were patently wrong, as well.

    Is there any way to make 8 more like 7? Get rid of this nonsense where you have to google everything before you can do it? Tabbed browsing the old-fashioned way?
    Even though I'n NOT a fan of Win8, I STILL try to help folks ...

    A really GOOD thing about Win8 (at least, in my view), is that you're not stuck using the Modern UI; instead, you can use a UI very similar to what's in Win7. You have already been told how to use the Desktop UI. I would suggest you use that initially and, over time, you can experiment with the Tiles UI to see how it works.

    As mentioned, there are add-ons you can install that will set the Default UI to the Desktop -- so, you might want to look into installing those, especially if other folks use the PC and you really want them to see the desktop, for now.
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