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    Moved our home server to a Corsair 400R case yesterday...
    Nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by azasadny View Post
    Why I hate fans, contd...
    Mine's got 3 fans. Two for the case and one is a reversed horn to concentrate air directly on the CPU. I take the tower out to the garage to blow it out twice a year whether it needs it or not. It only takes about 20 minutes total. Time well spent.

    I'll have liquid-cooled when I go to build one as you suggested, though.

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    Every PC I work on is loaded with dust, especially people who have pets and leave the CPU on the floor, which is where it usually is. I always clean/replace the fans and then tell them to dust out the case every 6 months or so.
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  3. #333


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    Quote Originally Posted by azasadny View Post
    Every PC I work on is loaded with dust, especially people who have pets and leave the CPU on the floor, which is where it usually is. I always clean/replace the fans and then tell them to dust out the case every 6 months or so.

    computer sellers missed out on a lot of money by not telling/making buyers come in for maintenance work every few months to keep the computer working correctly ,,at a small price of course.

    this is like car maintenance that the dealers require for Warranty .and charge you to have done [if not covered ],like oil & filter and all round checkup
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    Quote Originally Posted by azasadny View Post
    It's not water, it's polyethylene glycol, which is non-conductive. Liquid cooling is not new at all, the Cray and other supercomputers have been using it for years. The "all-in-one" kits make it easy and affordable to liquid cool the CPU. Fans make noise, bring in lots of dust and dander, and are very inefficient. Once you try these new liquid cooling kits, you'll wonder why you would do anything else...
    I remember the old days[late 90's for me ] ,surfing the net and seeing people running pipes through picnic cooler full of ice and into the computer to make the circle ,lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by azasadny View Post
    Every PC I work on is loaded with dust, especially people who have pets and leave the CPU on the floor, which is where it usually is. I always clean/replace the fans and then tell them to dust out the case every 6 months or so.

    computer sellers missed out on a lot of money by not telling/making buyers come in for maintenance work every few months to keep the computer working correctly ,,at a small price of course.

    this is like car maintenance that the dealers require for Warranty .and charge you to have done [if not covered ],like oil & filter and all round checkup
    Not really they just sell them a new one when the computer shuts off due to high temp. I know of 3 people that did that when all they needed to do was clean the CPU heat sink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by azasadny View Post
    Every PC I work on is loaded with dust, especially people who have pets and leave the CPU on the floor, which is where it usually is. I always clean/replace the fans and then tell them to dust out the case every 6 months or so.

    computer sellers missed out on a lot of money by not telling/making buyers come in for maintenance work every few months to keep the computer working correctly ,,at a small price of course.

    this is like car maintenance that the dealers require for Warranty .and charge you to have done [if not covered ],like oil & filter and all round checkup
    Not really they just sell them a new one when the computer shuts off due to high temp. I know of 3 people that did that when all they needed to do was clean the CPU heat sink.
    This right here...

    If you notice on (most) laptops as of recent years, they're designed to have an access panel to get to the hard drive and RAM. Those are two upgrades that can be done rather easily and promote a longer life span of the PC, maybe even carry over to a new one. But a CPU heatsink access panel is pretty much nonexistent, which means the CPU over heats and shuts down randomly. That will make the average door knob say, "My computer sucks, I need a new one!"
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    I bumped up my overclock to 4.6GHz (46 x 100) and it's running without any issues in Win8. When I tried these same settings on Win7, I experienced random lockups and had to back it back down to 4.5GHz (45x100), so I'm happy about this. In a week or so I'll bump it up to 4.7GHz. I bought a Logitech illuminated keyboard yesterday and I'm very happy with it as I can easily see the keyboard, even in a very dark room (my mancave)...
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    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post


    computer sellers missed out on a lot of money by not telling/making buyers come in for maintenance work every few months to keep the computer working correctly ,,at a small price of course.

    this is like car maintenance that the dealers require for Warranty .and charge you to have done [if not covered ],like oil & filter and all round checkup
    Not really they just sell them a new one when the computer shuts off due to high temp. I know of 3 people that did that when all they needed to do was clean the CPU heat sink.
    This right here...

    If you notice on (most) laptops as of recent years, they're designed to have an access panel to get to the hard drive and RAM. Those are two upgrades that can be done rather easily and promote a longer life span of the PC, maybe even carry over to a new one. But a CPU heatsink access panel is pretty much nonexistent, which means the CPU over heats and shuts down randomly. That will make the average door knob say, "My computer sucks, I need a new one!"
    You got that one right Coke.

    All my HP laptops need to have the motherboard literally removed, first keyboard and a lot of screws to be able to even see the fan!
    I managed to put one back together once but hopefully I don't need to open it too soon.

    For these hard to open models: cleaning without opening can also be applied, at least for the fan if it's partially seen from outside.
    Clean these laptops with the vacuum cleaner near the fan opening and it works. You need some long thin copper/iron wire to stir the clogged dust between the metal raster and fan and then bring a vacuum cleaner near... I was impressed what two years of dust was for me there. It will remove all the big dust chunks around the fan and you can avoid heats or removing 50 screws and stuff. Some dust may be cluttered under the keyboard and other compartments and we cannot get this from outside but as long as the fan is clean, all goes well.

    The only exception (easy fan access) is an older acer laptop where the fan has its own compartment just like the RAM.
    Too bad this one is an older, not so used, model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azasadny View Post
    I bumped up my overclock to 4.6GHz (46 x 100) and it's running without any issues in Win8. When I tried these same settings on Win7, I experienced random lockups and had to back it back down to 4.5GHz (45x100), so I'm happy about this. In a week or so I'll bump it up to 4.7GHz. I bought a Logitech illuminated keyboard yesterday and I'm very happy with it as I can easily see the keyboard, even in a very dark room (my mancave)...
    That's a nice improvement!
    Hopefully it remains stable.

    How much better is this compared to the stock speed Art? (for example WEI score or some benchmarks)
    That way maybe I can get some ideas of the frequencies and if it's worth or not. Seems liquid cooling is the only way to go with this speeds.

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Hopachi; 08 Apr 2013 at 08:02.
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    I'll run more benchmarks one evening this week afte rI see how stable the new overclock is. I like to set the new parameters, watch the PC for about a week, run stress tests and benchmarks, then keep it at that setting for at least two weeks before trying the next "bump" up... I'm already past the point where I would experience random lockups in Win7 and I would see the "swirling circle of death" on my Win7 PC in the AM when I turned the monitor on. I leave all of my PC's on and turn off the monitors and none of mine are set to hibernate...

    My mother-in-law is in the hospital and isn't doing well (end-stage COPD), so I don't know how much time I'll have to work on the PC as we'll be at the hospital quite a bit. Our daughter is rowing for our high school, so this is "regatta season" and we'll be busy and our exchange student is playing tennins, so between all of these activities, I'll be pretty busy for awhile...

    I'll post benchmarks and other results as I get them...
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