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I hate it.. can't say much more.. can't find anything! have to do a search everytime I want a program... it wiped out my Roxio, no start bar to get to programs? I'm going back to WIN7.... I was going to upgrade on all my computers, NOT happening for sure, should have figured Microsoft would screw it up again.. I'm still trying to find things in my MSWord that used to be right there on the bar above.. now, its impossible.. every new item gets worse and worse.. what happened to the old programmers, these new ones must be on dope or something?
 

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Well, on a few respects I agree with you. I have elected at this point to not run Windows 8 on my boxes.

However, there is no doubt that the marketplace is changing, people are using more and more mobile devices, seem to be enamored with touchscreens and in many respects have been willing to give up a lot for some advantages. Microsoft has felt the need to get ahead of this before they are left behind. While I don't completely agree with what they have done, I can see their reason for making changes.

It seems like a lot of things that you mentioned though are biggies that have been discussed ad nauseam. It's a bit surprising that you weren't prepared at this point for what you saw.

The part of your post that intrigues me the most is "I was going to upgrade on all of my computers?". What was your reasoning for this? Certainly there must have been something that you researched about which led you to believe that the upgrade was the best option, but yet it doesn't seem like you really knew much about it going into it.
 

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Like I tell clients the times they be a changing and stay with what you like and use or move to the new age of computing. Simple as that.
 

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I liked XP, 98 always pulled the "blue screen of death on me", so I upgraded.. then when I went to 7, I liked it also, I hated the Office upgrade and still do, took me over a year to find "find", and I still haven't found all the useful tools in WORD.. so, I just assumed, I know, NEVER assume anything... that WIN8 PRO would be even better, just leave the OFFICE part alone, (someone already told me 2010 is horrendous)... I didn't do a lot of research on 8, guess I should have.. but, $69 or whatever it cost me, isn't that bad to learn not to trust MS anymore when they say "its better".. and maybe at some point I'll be able to find my control panel, printer and gadget settings icon, and so forth.. I can't even set the properties on my printer, can't find it.. I had just installed Roxio for DVD and CD, it wiped it out and said it had expired, well, it was less than 3 months old and NOT a trial version.. so, I'll find my disc and just try to re-install it.. any rate, I still have all my WIN7 stuff, so I just may go back to that.. I'm definitely not putting it on my desktop computer, and my sisters is still XP, so I may just bump her to 7, if I put 8 on hers, she'd throw it out the door..
 

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Unless you're a propeller-headed geek like many of us around here are, upgrade your system if and only if there are new features that you need. Yes, the market is changing quickly but that doesn't mean you have to immediately go out there and buy the latest thing. You'll upgrade soon enough when the need arises.

To me and most desktop users Win8 does not fall into the category of need. After playing with it for a year-and-a-half (on and off) I ditched it altogether and rebuild my main system back to Win7. I miss nothing about Win8. Nothing.

-Max
 

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Unless you're a propeller-headed geek like many of us around here are, upgrade your system if and only if there are new features that you need. Yes, the market is changing quickly but that doesn't mean you have to immediately go out there and buy the latest thing. You'll upgrade soon enough when the need arises.

To me and most desktop users Win8 does not fall into the category of need. After playing with it for a year-and-a-half (on and off) I ditched it altogether and rebuild my main system back to Win7. I miss nothing about Win8. Nothing.

-Max
AMEN.. I was looking at the supposedly safety aspect from virus's, Trojans, etc.. but not even sure that was true.. the rest is just a apple in disguise..
 

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I hate it.. can't say much more.. can't find anything! have to do a search everytime I want a program... it wiped out my Roxio, no start bar to get to programs? I'm going back to WIN7.... I was going to upgrade on all my computers, NOT happening for sure, should have figured Microsoft would screw it up again.. I'm still trying to find things in my MSWord that used to be right there on the bar above.. now, its impossible.. every new item gets worse and worse.. what happened to the old programmers, these new ones must be on dope or something?

I understand what you're going through, as I went through a lot of the same. I decided to "upgrade" too, but what I did was to install Win 8 on a clean hard drive and unplug the Win 7 hard drive. That way, I can "downgrade" any time I want to. I didn't go the route of installing over Windows 7; never have done that for the very reasons you seem to have suffered. No matter what they say, anything but a clean install is trouble for me. Clean installs take longer, but are easier in the long run.

My first disaster was trying to figure out how to close the dang computer down! Talk about hiding things! Who woulda thunk the power button would be under Settings! Good grief! I finally found that one, and managed to figure out how to get to the desktop. Finally! By that time, I was "off and running".

From the time it first appeared, I have used Quick Launch to line my most used apps along the taskbar. Yeppers, it's still there in Windows 8! I think there's a tutorial for that here somewhere, but I've recreated it so many times I didn't need the tutorial.

And speaking of tutorials . . . There are a few gazillion of them here. Even though you see an alphabet at the top of your screen, be sure to look down a couple of items and click on the Tutorial Index, which will give you a truly alphabetized list of same. You can find almost anything you want there.
 

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wow.. see, I didn't even know how to shut down, I've been just closing the lid on my laptop to shut it down.. so its in settings?.. ha.. I was thinking maybe when I search to find things like PAINT, if I can right click and create a shortcut, then put it on my desktop, I wouldn't need my start bar after a while.. WHY did they get rid of START? to easy for everyone? hey, I even see control panel in there.. wow, found two now.. thanks to you! where is printers?
 

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My first disaster was trying to figure out how to close the dang computer down! Talk about hiding things! Who woulda thunk the power button would be under Settings! Good grief! I finally found that one, and managed to figure out how to get to the desktop. Finally! By that time, I was "off and running".
The Windows 8 fans though will preach how you should just hit the "physical power button" on the PC and nobody used the actual shut down button in previous versions of Windows. I agree to disagree and I always shut down using the shutdown button within Windows itself. Maybe it was just you and I having this problem.

Edit: Oh yeah, and the guy that my dad was helping when they both called me because they couldn't figure out how to shut down Windows 8 either. So, I guess it's just 4 of us who used the old button within Windows.
 

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wow.. see, I didn't even know how to shut down, I've been just closing the lid on my laptop to shut it down.. so its in settings?.. ha.. I was thinking maybe when I search to find things like PAINT, if I can right click and create a shortcut, then put it on my desktop, I wouldn't need my start bar after a while.. WHY did they get rid of START? to easy for everyone? hey, I even see control panel in there.. wow, found two now.. thanks to you! where is printers?

Ummm, lemme see now . . . They're not under Devices, where you'd expect them! I installed a little program called Classic Shell (classicshell.net) that gives a simulation of the old Start menu. It doesn't work exactly like Windows 7 Start, but it's acceptable. There, you can click on Settings (that silly thing again) and then on Printers. All your printers will show up. Alternatively, you can go to the Control Panel and click on Devices and Printers.

I've found that it is definitely harder to get to where you want to go in Win 8, but I'm hoping some day I'll figure out what I've been doing wrong and things will get easier. :confused:
 

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The Windows 8 fans though will preach how you should just hit the "physical power button" on the PC and nobody used the actual shut down button in previous versions of Windows. I agree to disagree and I always shut down using the shutdown button within Windows itself. Maybe it was just you and I having this problem.

Edit: Oh yeah, and the guy that my dad was helping when they both called me because they couldn't figure out how to shut down Windows 8 either. So, I guess it's just 4 of us who used the old button within Windows.

Funny, I hadn't thought of using the physical power button (I know you can set how the power button works) until you mentioned it here. However, since my computer is in its own cubby hole at the bottom of the desk, I'm not gonna stand on me haid to shut 'er down; I already have to do that to start it up. Well actually, when I start the computer in the morning, and I'm barefooted, I just punch the physical power button with me big toe. :eek: But at the end of the day, I have my shoes on and that no longer works.

I'm with you, Parks; Windows 8 is a personal choice. I come here to learn, although after my experiences with Win 8, I can fully understand why some people have to "clear the air".
 

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The Windows 8 fans though will preach how you should just hit the "physical power button" on the PC and nobody used the actual shut down button in previous versions of Windows. I agree to disagree and I always shut down using the shutdown button within Windows itself. Maybe it was just you and I having this problem.

Edit: Oh yeah, and the guy that my dad was helping when they both called me because they couldn't figure out how to shut down Windows 8 either. So, I guess it's just 4 of us who used the old button within Windows.

Nah, ain't gonna do that. I know there's a setting that will allow you to shut down using the power button, but my computer is in its own little cubby hole at the bottom of my desk and I'm not going to stand on my head to shut it down.

I support senior citizens in my community and one of the things I teach them all is to shut down the (in my opinion) proper way. So, we're not all that alone, and I'm betting most will bring their habits with Win 7 to Win 8 with them.

Yeppers, Win 8 is a personal choice, and I'm good with that too. Now, if this place didn't exist, I'm not so sure my personal choice wouldn't have gone down the drain long before now. :eek:
 

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Nah, ain't gonna do that. I know there's a setting that will allow you to shut down using the power button, but my computer is in its own little cubby hole at the bottom of my desk and I'm not going to stand on my head to shut it down.

So you stand on your head to turn it on then? I don't get people that make this argument. If it's so hard to hit the power button to shut down, how is it not hard to hit it to turn it on? You don't have to change any setting either, it's the default behavior.

Microsoft WANTS you to use the power button, because that's what happens on every other device on the planet. Phones, tablets, TV's, cars, everything has a power button that both turns it on and off, why should a computer be different?
 

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So you stand on your head to turn it on then? I don't get people that make this argument. If it's so hard to hit the power button to shut down, how is it not hard to hit it to turn it on? You don't have to change any setting either, it's the default behavior.

Microsoft WANTS you to use the power button, because that's what happens on every other device on the planet. Phones, tablets, TV's, cars, everything has a power button that both turns it on and off, why should a computer be different?

Nope, when I stagger into my computer room in the mornings, being careful in my bleary-eyed just-woke-up state, not to spill coffee on my keyboard, I'm usually barefooted. Yep, you guessed it . . . I use my big toe to punch the power button. :eek:

I disagree that Microsoft WANTS me to use the power button [exclusively]; if that were the case, then why on earth is there a provision for the software power button? For me, the physical power button is for a "hard" shutdown when nothing else will work. That's just the way I work.

What I see is that Microsoft gives us CHOICES; not so many in Win 8, but by and large, the choices are there. And, to me, that's what it's all about. You have the freedom to choose how you want to work and so do I.
 

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So why can't you hit the power button with your toe to shut it down? Pressing the power button is Microsoft's intended way to shut down the computer going forward. That's why the software shutdown is no longer prominent.

Even so, there are multiple ways to shut it down with software. WinKey+I -> Shutdown, Ctrl-alt-del-> Shutdown in lower right corner, etc..
 

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Welcome to Windows EightForums, frhrwa.

Windows 8 is quite different I know, but not impossible to learn. I suggest when all else fails, read the instructions.

When you were installing, did you happen to see the tutorial on the hot corner? Quite different I know. Move your pointer to the upper right or lower left corner or hit WinKey/C. A Charms bar appears. Please notice what's on that bar. One of them is "Settings". Push that and you'll see a help button there.

Perhaps more familiar to you -> Push WinKey/D. When there, push F1 as we have in past OSs. What do you see?

Another alternative; There is a tile on the Start Screen (WinKey) that is titled "Store". Push that. When it opens, again, place the pointer in the top right or lower left corner or WinKey/C. A Charms bar appears. Push Search. Type "Learn Windows 8". Push enter. A slew of learning apps will appear. I suggest to install the free one titled "Learn Windows 8".

I overlooked what we call spamming here on this forum in your OP. I sense you are quite frustrated and possibly angry. I understand. 8 is quite different from past OSs. A little more of a learning curve. I suggest that after you learn it somewhat to come back and share what you think.

I hope that helps. Good luck to you.
 

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So you stand on your head to turn it on then? I don't get people that make this argument. If it's so hard to hit the power button to shut down, how is it not hard to hit it to turn it on? You don't have to change any setting either, it's the default behavior.

Microsoft WANTS you to use the power button, because that's what happens on every other device on the planet. Phones, tablets, TV's, cars, everything has a power button that both turns it on and off, why should a computer be different?

And there you go.

My PC is on the floor on the side of my desk, I walk over and bend down and push the button to turn it on. I prefer to not have to repeat the procedure to shut it off. If there was a physical power button on my keyboard (like a MAC), I would use that to turn it on and turn it off, but since there is not, I use the shut off option within Windows.

If Microsoft was really hell bent on now using the Shut down button within Windows, they would have eliminated it like they did the start menu.

Even so, there are multiple ways to shut it down with software. WinKey+I -> Shutdown, Ctrl-alt-del-> Shutdown in lower right corner, etc..

That's all true. You just gotta hunt around and find it. Unlike many other versions of Windows in the past, this one has proven more difficult for more people than any prior version I can remember, ever.
 

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