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  1. #31


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    So why can't you hit the power button with your toe to shut it down? Pressing the power button is Microsoft's intended way to shut down the computer going forward. That's why the software shutdown is no longer prominent.

    Even so, there are multiple ways to shut it down with software. WinKey+I -> Shutdown, Ctrl-alt-del-> Shutdown in lower right corner, etc..
    Because I have shoes on by the end of the day. And why should I not work the way I want to? It shouldn't be important to anyone but myself how I choose to shut down Windows anyway.

    Enough about this silly subject . . .

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  2. #32


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Yep, I'm with you. That's the way we all do it/say it in Texas.
    Last edited by znod; 04 Feb 2013 at 16:54.
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  3. #33


    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    So why can't you hit the power button with your toe to shut it down? Pressing the power button is Microsoft's intended way to shut down the computer going forward. That's why the software shutdown is no longer prominent.

    Even so, there are multiple ways to shut it down with software. WinKey+I -> Shutdown, Ctrl-alt-del-> Shutdown in lower right corner, etc..
    I think he said that his toe was unavailable for shutdown because by then he has shoes on.

    -Max
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  4. #34


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post

    I think he said that his toe was unavailable for shutdown because by then he has shoes on.

    -Max
    Ummm, Max, he's a she.

    [/QUOTE]
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  5. #35


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    You have a very warped idea of how the market works.
    I know exactly how it works.
    I don't think you do, given your response.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    You seem to be assuming perfect competition.
    No, I'm not. No such market exists, other than perhaps highly commoditized markets like fasteners, and even then there are differences in quality, differences in materials, etc.. There's literally no such thing as two firms having identical products.

    Let's take the age old car comparison. General Motors was, until recently, the #1 selling car company in the world. There is lots of competition in the car market, yet nobody would try and claim that any of your 5 items are true, particularly the "freedom to enter and exit", since there are significant barriers to entry. Ford doesn't design the Focus by going to a bunch of users and saying "How should we design the next one"? Oh, i'm sure they may have some focus groups (no pun intended) but they only take these as suggestions. The engineers design the cars to meet various needs, including safety standards, various state regulations, and innovations they think people might want (such as the MS Sync technology). Nobody says "Damn ford for not giving me a start menu on my navigation system! The people have spoken (me) and they should damn well do what I say or else!"

    If people like the Focus, they buy it. If they don't, they buy something else. There are people that may not like the layout of the instrument panel, and those people go somewhere else. Ford doesn't say "Wait! let me whip up a new instrument panel just to placate you!".

    There are now many different kinds of PC's out there. Chromebooks are in the top lists of amazons sales, for instance. As are plenty of non-MS tablets and other computers.

    Manufacturers make products, based on their own designs. Only an idiot designs something based entirely on customer request.
    Last edited by Mystere; 04 Feb 2013 at 21:31.
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  6. #36


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    LOL.

    So you are now a marketing pro ?

    When you go to your doctor, do you tell him he doesn't know what he is talking about - it wouldn't surprise me.
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  7. #37


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    No, I'm a software engineer. I know how software is designed and built for almost 30 years in the industry covering over 20 different industries. I've been involved in hardware and software design processes, and I know how products are built. (One of those industries was the automotive industry, dealing with the specification and ordering of everything from cars to light duty trucks and tractor/trailors). I have literally been in meetings with the #2 guy at GM. So I have some knowledge of which I speak.

    You may have marketing experience, but that does not translate to product design experience.
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  8. #38


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post

    I think he said that his toe was unavailable for shutdown because by then he has shoes on.

    -Max
    Ummm, Max, he's a she.

    [/QUOTE]

    Oops ... didn't notice. Oh well ...

    -Max
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  9. #39


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    And there you go.

    My PC is on the floor on the side of my desk, I walk over and bend down and push the button to turn it on. I prefer to not have to repeat the procedure to shut it off. If there was a physical power button on my keyboard (like a MAC), I would use that to turn it on and turn it off, but since there is not, I use the shut off option within Windows.
    Whoa! I have a Logitech K350 Wave keyboard with all kinds of buttons on it. Lemme see now . . . I gots a (looks like a) file button, a zoom button, a camera button, (looks like) a tool button (gear), a music button, a Media Center button, a calculator button and . . . wait for it . . . a POWER button! I've never even fooled with the buttons, nor have I bothered with the driver for the keyboard, figuring Windows Update will take care of it. Especially since I use my computer for business apps rather than games, music and such and really haven't had any use for bells and whistles.

    Now I have to see what happens when I push that little power button. I'll post this message before I do, and if I disappear forever, ya'll know what happened.

    Although I've
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  10. #40


    Well, as luck would have it, I have a mechanical keyboard that doesn't include bells and whistles..so I don't have a power key on my keyboard. If I did have one, I would use it.
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