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Rolling out windows 8 in a cooperate enviorment

  1. #11


    Were waiting to get anumber of Surface pros in, when they come available. Protentially to replace the current ipads throughout the business, which we dont have alot of control over, also as part of the same project looking at windows 8 replacement desktops and Laptops so there is a common OS accross the business.

    So currently I'm looking rolling out 10 windows 8 pro desktops as a pilot, But just rolling out the 10 is proving difficult.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by snoop101 View Post
    If you already rolled out Windows 7, what would be the motivation to roll out 8?
    My point exactly.

    -Max
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  3. #13


    The explanation he offered for a pilot deployment of Windows 8 makes sense.

    From what I have heard from others, fruity devices tend not to play nice in a Windows world.
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  4. #14


    Quote Originally Posted by shanerlb View Post
    Were waiting to get anumber of Surface pros in, when they come available. Protentially to replace the current ipads throughout the business, which we dont have alot of control over, also as part of the same project looking at windows 8 replacement desktops and Laptops so there is a common OS accross the business.

    So currently I'm looking rolling out 10 windows 8 pro desktops as a pilot, But just rolling out the 10 is proving difficult.
    This makes complete sense. I cannot help you much on this but I am VERY interested to hear how this goes. If you can please keep us updated. You are the first person I have come across with plans to roll out windows 8 in a corporate environment.

    If I come across any info I will be sure to post it here.
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by shanerlb View Post
    I am a memeber of technet and have published several threads on their forums, but not having a lot of information come back, which I find strange. I cant imagine there hasn't been any testing in a cooperate envirorment. I just trying to find out as much information as possible.

    There must be someone else in the world, who has looked into this?

    Believe it. Took us about 5 minutes of using the OS to uninstall and toss the disks on the shelf after testing it.

    Copy and paste this and send it off to your execs.

    "After evaluating Windows 8, I have determined that the best course of action is to wait until Microsoft releases Windows 9. We can continue to use Windows 7 which provides us with everything we need to operate our business."

    Best part is that sticking with Windows 7 carries no additional cost.

    You might get a promotion for this.

    Let us know.
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  6. #16


    Oh, and when they ask what's wrong with Windows 8, you can just point out that Windows 8 is nothing more than a test from Microsoft to force users into adopting the post PC tablet era, which is just not happening anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillipduran View Post
    Oh, and when they ask what's wrong with Windows 8, you can just point out that Windows 8 is nothing more than a test from Microsoft to force users into adopting the post PC tablet era, which is just not happening anytime soon.
    As "cool" as some may think Win8 is, I'm sorry - it offers nothing that a corporate user would even consider using on a desktop system. (I'm referring to the Metro side here). I can see, perhaps, corporations MAYBE integrating some surface tablets at some point, however even if they do that the users are going to be plugging the keyboards into them, setting them on a desktop or table and using the desktop side like they would any laptop. When on the plane they're going to use Metro to play solitaire, check the weather and do (for all practical purposes) non-productive type things. I'm sure corporations are going to invest in technology that gives their people more ways to waste time.

    With that being the case why not just have a laptop? Betcha dollars-to-doughnuts that's exactly the reasoning going on in boardrooms right now.

    You're not going to see Metro versions of Excel and Word anytime soon (I mean, let's get real here folks). Those are extremely mature products. Ditto that for any super-involved software offerings such as CAD/CAM, development tools, etc. Metro is at-best a consumer-level presentation layer. Microsoft has one hell of a long uphill climb if they have any aspirations of replacing the desktop system.

    Some have said that Microsoft's aim is to get rid of the desktop. Get real. That just ain't going to happen. Augment it, MAYBE, replace it? No way.

    On the consumer side, Metro is "OK" but after looking at it for a year-and-a-half I am not even a tiny bit tempted (as an individual user) to trade in my iPad or iPhone for anything running Metro. One of my colleagues has a Windows phone. It looks OK but pry the iPhone out of my (or many others) hands it certainly will not.

    Do I hate Win8? No. Most of you know me here, I don't hate any technology. I just don't see a bright future for Microsoft on this one.

    -Max
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  8. #18


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    Windows 8 pro 64


    I agree with the person who mentioned Windows Automated Installation Kit & windows images.

    I've never upgraded windows 8 machines with enterprise level, but within the last year I've done the same with windows 7.

    If you have an enterprise license (which I assume you do), create the perfect image, then redistribute.
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  9. #19


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by phillipduran View Post
    Oh, and when they ask what's wrong with Windows 8, you can just point out that Windows 8 is nothing more than a test from Microsoft to force users into adopting the post PC tablet era, which is just not happening anytime soon.
    As "cool" as some may think Win8 is, I'm sorry - it offers nothing that a corporate user would even consider using on a desktop system. (I'm referring to the Metro side here). I can see, perhaps, corporations MAYBE integrating some surface tablets at some point, however even if they do that the users are going to be plugging the keyboards into them, setting them on a desktop or table and using the desktop side like they would any laptop. When on the plane they're going to use Metro to play solitaire, check the weather and do (for all practical purposes) non-productive type things. I'm sure corporations are going to invest in technology that gives their people more ways to waste time.

    With that being the case why not just have a laptop? Betcha dollars-to-doughnuts that's exactly the reasoning going on in boardrooms right now.

    You're not going to see Metro versions of Excel and Word anytime soon (I mean, let's get real here folks). Those are extremely mature products. Ditto that for any super-involved software offerings such as CAD/CAM, development tools, etc. Metro is at-best a consumer-level presentation layer. Microsoft has one hell of a long uphill climb if they have any aspirations of replacing the desktop system.

    Some have said that Microsoft's aim is to get rid of the desktop. Get real. That just ain't going to happen. Augment it, MAYBE, replace it? No way.

    On the consumer side, Metro is "OK" but after looking at it for a year-and-a-half I am not even a tiny bit tempted (as an individual user) to trade in my iPad or iPhone for anything running Metro. One of my colleagues has a Windows phone. It looks OK but pry the iPhone out of my (or many others) hands it certainly will not.

    Do I hate Win8? No. Most of you know me here, I don't hate any technology. I just don't see a bright future for Microsoft on this one.

    -Max
    There are several reasons to use Windows 8 on the Desktop side regardless of the new apps. Dealing with fewer nuisance updates, faster startups from shutdown through Hybrid Boot, Automatic Maintenance tasks, improved Action Center, built in anti-virus through Windows Defender, Ribbon UI in Explorer, improved device driver support, very well improved security features such as system wide SmartScreen among other things, Hyper-V if that's applicable, a better Task Manager that even simpletons can use, and just overall stable zippy performance.

    Given the option between Windows 7 and 8 to deploy, 8 would be less of a hassle to deal with after a few months. There will be user issues with the Start Screen, but if the Start Screen is configured purely for the Desktop, all that needs to be shown is that the Start button is there but hidden and works the same, and the Settings Charms to shut down. Heck, one could even make the power tiles right there in a separate group.
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  10. #20


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    I believe there is a thread I recently just came across where someone posted where the user config file for the Start Screen is at, theoretically a master image should keep the Start Screen layout, and Windows will adjust it to fit the screen resolution of the monitor on the PC being used. I'll need to find that thread....

    Group Policy can be used to enforce that NO apps are installed, NO access to the Windows Store is allowed, and/or NO apps can be updated. You can uninstall all the superfluous apps, disable them if needed, and pin pretty much every Desktop item from File Explorer as well as programs onto Start. Essentially, you'd be setting up a Windows Server 2012 Start Screen. Actually, I wonder if you can also disable the Share and Devices charms.... Then that'd be a more Server 2012 setup minus the server part.

    As for your scripts, not a bloody clue.
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