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Windows 8 Broke 7, 30 Day Music Business Test Results.

  1. #31

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    Windows 8.1 Pro

    By the way, I'm pretty sure you're not legally licensed to publicly perform music you download from Rhapsody. The terms of service are pretty clear that it's for personal use and may not be used for any commercial purpose.

    Rhapsody Service Terms of Use

    "Your request to "purchase" a track by downloading is personal to you, and the track may not be used, sold, rented, transferred, licensed or otherwise provided to any other user. License to downloaded tracks include only those rights explicitly stated in the Service (typically, the right to play back for your own personal use from your personal computer, CD player, digital player, or other personal consumer electronic device), and, for the avoidance of doubt, do not include the right to create a derivative work, to make copies other than for your own personal use, or to use it in any commercial manner."

    So i'm not sure you have much of a leg to stand on anyways, regarding your business not working with this. Legally speaking, you aren't supposed to be doing it anyways.

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  2. #32

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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    It is the same 3 obsessives who jump on anything they perceive as even the mildest criticism.

    It is as if you told them they have an ugly baby.

    It is very funny.

    MS stripped out functions from this thing and put in a useless and annoying phone style ui together with some crapware.

    It doesn't seem to be flying off the shelves - no surprise there.
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  3. #33

    I can't speak for the three you mentioned, but I did buy an app through the Microsoft Store on LW8OD (Loving Windows 8 Obsessive Disorder).

    And speaking of babies! Did you see Bing's pic today? What a coincodence! It's somebody's baby....

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  4. #34

    If nothing else...I sure did enjoy reading every post in this thread was a hoot for sure. The hostility and testosterone is flying all about...I had to duck and get out of the way a few times but that was well worth it for the read.
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  5. #35

    Those that have attacked my issues with Rhapsody, Windows 8 and other flaws in the UI truly lack any experience in my field. Rhapsody DOES HAVE A PREMIER TO GO - FOR THE SIMPLETON - MEANS PLAY PROTABLE OFFLINE - HENCE THE LICENSE FOR "TO GO" FOR PORTABLE PLAYING. The other who is just to lazy to try it clearly demonstrates how out of touch Microsoft is with Windows 8 consumers and know they have a dysfunctional design team of support engineers. Why have key design team leaders who have left Microsoft with mutual consent? Microsoft Windows 8 has a problem and I have been using the WINDOWS OS since 1993. I am stuck with them and will use Windows 7 Pro. NEVER TO BE A WINDOWS 8 BUTCHER BABY. It is clear there are no solutions to be found here, just droll defense players of 8 banter.
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  6. #36

    Should read portable offline, my apologies.
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  7. #37

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    Windows 8.1 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by rockwelltek View Post
    those that have attacked my issues with rhapsody, windows 8 and other flaws in the ui truly lack any experience in my field. Rhapsody does have a premier to go - for the simpleton - means play protable offline - hence the license for "to go" for portable playing. The other who is just to lazy to try it clearly demonstrates how out of touch microsoft is with windows 8 consumers and know they have a dysfunctional design team of support engineers. Why have key design team leaders who have left microsoft with mutual consent? Microsoft windows 8 has a problem and i have been using the windows os since 1993. I am stuck with them and will use windows 7 pro. Never to be a windows 8 butcher baby. It is clear there are no solutions to be found here, just droll defense players of 8 banter.
    There have been solutions being offered. You're just refusing to use them.
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  8. #38

    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro

    Wow. Just. Wow.

    You do understand there is a difference between using music you have downloaded for personal use, and using it commercially. There is also a difference between playing it for your own private use, and playing it publicly.

    This is from the End User License Agreement:
    Rhapsody End User License Agreement

    "RI complies with copyright law and expects its users to do the same. You may not use the Application to help you infringe the copyrights of any third party. Unauthorized use, copying, distribution, modification, public display, or public performance of copyrighted works is an infringement of the copyright holders' rights and a violation of the law."

    Don't get angry because you are ignorant of the law, or want to pretend it doesn't apply to you. I really don't care whether you violate the law or not, I am just pointing out that your usage of it in your business is not legal anyways, so arguing that your business would suffer if you had to license the music legally is ironic.

    The other ironic part is that you complain about how much the songs cost, yet you just went out and bought a bunch of high end laptops. You seem to have no problem spending money when it's not related to the music. I doubt the RIAA or ASCAP will be impressed with your claims of hardship.

    Like I said, I don't care if you're breaking the law or not, but don't sit here and try to tell us that you can legally do something that is quite clearly not legal.

    Let's see.. you say you have 36,000 songs, x at least 10 systems doing public performances... You could be liable for several billion dollars in fines (each song is $2000+ per violation). I really wouldn't be bragging about that online if I were you. The RIAA is very rabid about that sort of thing.
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  9. #39

    If you look at my profile, you'll see that one of my interests is singing. I've been kara-croak-ing for years. I've gotten to know a half dozen people in the business who also DJ other events such as weddings, parties, etc. A couple are very close friends of mine. I've never heard of Rhapsody used in a karaoke or DJ business before, so I had to question that off the bat myself.

    I followed Mystere's links to the Rhapsody Service Terms of Use and Rhapsody End User License Agreement. I briefly read through them, especially the parts he pointed out, which happens to be correct for I decided to email Rhapsody directly:

    Hello there. I belong to a premium online forum. There was a new member that posted there complaining about a certain OS not being able to run Rhapsody services. He claims to have a Premier To Go licenses for "portable listening" involving several computers in which he uses for a commercial DJ business. Is it legal for him to do such or is the service for personal use only? I read in your agreement that it is not legal.

    Thanks for your time.
    This was their response a few minutes ago:

    Dear Customer,

    Thank you for contacting Rhapsody Customer Support.

    I understand that you need clarification about using Rhapsody on a commercial DJ business. I apologize for any inconvenience caused. Certainly, I will assist you.

    As you said, Rhapsody music is for personal, non-commercial use only. Hence, the customer who posted in the online forum is wrong and it is illegal.

    If you would like to speak to someone directly, please call our Customer Service at 1-8?6-5?7-5?0?. Monday - Friday, 6:00 am to 6:00 pm - Pacific Time : Saturday & Sunday, 7:30 am-5 pm Pacific Time.

    If there is anything else I can assist you with, please reply to this e-mail.

    Thank you,


    Rhapsody Customer Support
    No, I won't be doing any further contacting, thank you.

    I don't think I'd be complaining or bragging online either.
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  10. #40

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    Hi there
    using a computer to play music in any case is so OLD HAT these days -- what's wrong with your smartphone - much more convenient anyway you look at it -- can be used anywhere even if no computer network / Wi-Fi so long as you have a mobile signal - or play music on local storage - up to 32 GB with ext sd micro card and another 32 GB (max) on the phone's internal storage.

    The whole W8 argument is getting a bit pointless -- in fact the whole distinction of what you use a DEVICE for should really be analysed.

    Do you really need to be "tethered" to a computer at all these days. OK in an office doing "traditional things" a computer is necessary but decent "Touch " type of applications will make a lot of jobs so much easier. Now I'm not talking about those ghastly "Metro" type thingeys but properly developed applications which will come such as good touch interfaces for things like Photoshop, good drag 'n 'drop for automatic charting and spread sheet applications and a whole host of others.

    In a DJ booth I'd think that being able to select a track by touch rather than have to mess around with a keyboard would be much better too -- and possibly a tablet here even better than a PC.

    For traditional I.T support work such as maintaining / running servers, housekeeping tasks etc then I agree Windows 8 doesn't bring anything to the table - but these types of guys usually run this stuff in cmd mode anyway and can run on their own desktops anything they like.

    Call centers also tend to need traditional desktops - but I HATE the whole Call center experience - and I'm sure with more online chat type applications the modern Call Center is essentially DEAD - and can't die quick enough for me --I NEVER again will use one of these. If I get a menu choose a, b , c etc I'll just hang up and send a Fax instead --usually gets quicker results too.

    From the point of view of a USER rather than as someone in I.T you have etc ask yourself what is it people in offices actually DO these days.

    If it's HR a decent touch application could work far better than complex systems like ORACLE, SAP ESS / HCM etc.
    If it's stock ,management / re-ordering / customer follow up - again new touch applications could easily replace the old manual database query type of stuff.
    Any type of marketing / product design etc -- certainly touch here would be very welcome.

    Loads and loads more.

    Some will like it, others will come round after seeing it in action for a while . a few diehards will never embrace it just as even today there are some people who refuse to have anything to do with ANY computer whatever OS it's running.

    Remember also W8 is part of an evolving process -- perhaps the way its implemented touch isn't good -- but newer more advanced and "user friendly" apps will surely come. One has to start somewhere.

    Even the ever increasing popularity of the Bicycle started off with the almost impossible to ride "Penny Farthing". If people had given up we wouldn't have had bikes today.

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