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  1. #11


    Australia
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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    @topgundcp Thanks for the heads up. Will give Macrium a go. Does it allow the image to be mounted on another PC to retrieve files if a mobo has carked it?

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  2. #12


    San Jose - California
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    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    @topgundcp Thanks for the heads up. Will give Macrium a go. Does it allow the image to be mounted on another PC to retrieve files if a mobo has carked it?
    Sure does.

    BTW, with Acronis 2012 Recue media, I don't think there's an option to verify the image on the menu but if you right click on the image, you'll see it there,
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  3. #13


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Will probably go Gigabyte as my current SLI linked video cards are all Gigabyte and run seamless. Solid core capacitors early innovation is a big plus and that alone is enough to sway me to that persuasion. I currently have 2 Corsair Force SSD SATA3 120GB HDs in main machine. One for OS and other for storage, or 2nd OS if wanted. All other storage is done on West Digital external HDs, being USB3 750GB & eSATA 1TB which runs in tower caddy. Intel say that Rapid Storage drivers should be installed to allow safe hot plugging of eSATA HD. I presume Gigabyte would have something similar? Or maybe OK by default?
    All gigabyte boards based on the Intel chipset also have the Intel Storage Technology drivers. I've never installed them, as I don't hotplug anything and I don't use RAID (not a good idea to use RAID with SSD's since you can't use TRIM when in a raid configuration. Although I hear some of the new Intel drives may allow it). I just install the standard AHCI driver and use that, and have not had any issues. There are also drivers for Rapid Start Technology which I also never install (and disable in BIOS). I do enable the EIST though (that's the enhanced power savings where it throttles down the CPU cores when idle).

    Most of the performance boards tend to also include a secondary SATA chipset, such a Marvel chip. Those typically have different driver requirements (they still work with standard AHCI, but if you want raid and what not). It depends on the board.

    I would suggest doing a detailed comparison of the features of the boards you are interested in. In particular, look at number of USB 3.0 ports (both on the board and as internal expansion connectors), and various backside connectors (many of the newer boards don't have a PS/2 connector, which you may or may not be OK with). Also, if you want eSATA, you might look for something that has a backplate eSata rather than just expansion slot extenders.

    Depending on your case and power supply, you may also have to be cognizant of the location of the power and front panel connectors, but in all honesty, I would also buy a new case that has at least 4 front panel USB 3. But that's up to you. I also prefer cases with quick release drive bays, since I do a lot of swapping around.

    Other issues are more typical, such as the kind of audio it supports (whether you want or need optical in/out, for instance). Many boards with optical only have optical out, not in.
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  4. #14


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    @ topgundcp Thanks for the confirmation re mounting Macrium image.

    @ Mystere Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply to my query re motherboards. I will certainly read up on the various board specs, keeping in mind the diferent points you have brought to my attention. EIST sounds like a good option to have.

    And I think you're right. Time to buy a new tower and start from scratch. My current tower is a Cooler Master Centurion 5 II gaming case, but possibly a bit underpowered. And the whole rig is almost two years old, which is a long time in PC terms.

    Likewise I don't use Raid configuration, but installed the Rapid Storage drivers to make the SATA drives run more efficiently and consistently, which in turn enabled Nero to run. I have never overclocked as Intel never allowed it in the past, and even on the DX58SO2 high performance board they warned that it would wear out the components quicker. But with SSD SATA3 HD, 3 SLI linked video cards, extreme CPU & 12GB RAM, you don't really need it. I don't think the human eye could detect the difference no matter what game is running.

    I am most grateful.

    Cheers M
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  5. #15


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    A Longshot


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Usually once one component goes it's indicative that others are also probably on the way out. If a capacitor breaks down it can vary the voltage to other components outside the tolerance limits and nuke them.
    My friend and I worked as electronic repair techs (he still works in basically the same field).

    Replacing the capacitor was a longshot.
    I figured that it was worth trying to replace the capacitor ($1).
    If it had worked, it would have saved me $200+ (new motherboard, CPU, & RAM).

    Something else was wrong with the motherboard (obviously related to, or the cause of, the capacitor problem) because although it would start, it wouldn't POST.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    @topgundcp Thanks for the heads up. Will give Macrium a go. Does it allow the image to be mounted on another PC to retrieve files if a mobo has carked it?
    I can mount Macrium images that were created on my previous installations and read the contents without problems.
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  6. #16


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Yeah likewise I have tried to repair a few boards over the years by replacing an individual component. As you say, cost wise worth a shot. The only one that ever worked was not really replacing a faulty component, but re-soldering a dry solder joint on the attaching pins to the board.
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  7. #17


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    The only one that ever worked was not really replacing a faulty component, but re-soldering a dry solder joint on the attaching pins to the board.
    I hate dry solder joints.
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  8. #18


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Mustang, here is a tutorial how to deal with Macrium: Imaging with free Macrium - Windows 7 Forums

    Note that there are 2 important links in the tutorial:
    1. A video from our friend Keith that shows you the whole recovery process
    2. A link to my Skydrive from where you can download the WinPE .iso. Saves you a couple of hours producing it yourself.

    And for the Windows 8 installation - why don't you go virtual. This is the best of all worlds: VMware Player - Install Windows 8

    And if you want to be really fancy and run your Windows 8 on different machines, do like I have done: Portable OS - Carry your OS on an External Drive - Windows 7 Forums
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  9. #19


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    @whs Thank you very much for all that input and for going to so much trouble to provide all those links. I replied to a post you had on another thread in this forum here.

    I have read the tutorial in Win7 Forum and already dowwloaded the WinPE.iso from a link you had in another post on this forum. I was originally alerted to it by Topgundcp in an earlier post in this thread.

    At the moment I've got W8 installed on my backup PC with no other OSs on the machine and it runs very well. However, I like the idea of portable OS. I've been aware of it for a long time but never got around to doing it.

    Truth is while I do enjoy tinkering with PCs in a general sense, most of the knowledge I possess has come from a need to know basis. And aside from solving problems on my own PCs, a lot has come about from resolving problems when helping repair other persons PCs. As mentioned in other posts I belong to a world wide self-help fellowship, and my humble contribution is to try and help other members of this fellowship who reside in my area with their PC problems. And a lot of them haven't got the finances to to to a professional for help.

    I'm certainly no expert, and while there's heaps of stuff I don't know, what I do know, I know well. I'm past doing any formal tertiary education, but if I had my time over again, I would devote it to working professionally in the field of computers. Ironically both my son in laws are electronic engineers although my daughters met them totally independently from each other and from my professional engineering background. One is in fibre optic communications and the other in green energy development and deployment.
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  10. #20


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    This world wide self-help fellowship sounds interesting. How do you communicate within the group. Is that only for computers or does it have a larger aspect.

    I was lucky. I spent my life in computers since 1961 after I did already a few years before at university. But PCs were new to me too. There is never an end to learning. Now I am into tablets and Android. Where will that end.
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