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  1. #51


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    pcRat--I was the first to come down on WHS for using that word. He later admitted that it could have been too harsh of a word. Perhaps you should read my post #40. It's food for thought for anyone who participates in this type of discussion forum; and hopefully put an end to grilling him about using the word.

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  2. #52


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Frank, thanks for the support. But I don't feel grilled. I have seen enough people in my life to be able to distinguish between the smart ones and the not so smart ones - regardless how you call them. And I am not a supporter of this 'political correctness' trend. Things should be called the way they are.
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  3. #53


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Ask the kids to convert the number 30 to binary and then to hexadecimal. Those that come up with 0001 1110 and 1E are the winners.
    Why is that so important to average user for email, games & social sites? Am I really stupid for not knowing that without googling it? Or are you really smarter because you know something that I don't?
    Sure, if you use the computer like an appliance, it is not important. But if you want to understand how the computer functions, you have to know certain basics - and the binary system is one of the bases of computer operation.

    That is not a question of smart or stupid. It is a question of how much you want to know about your system. But if somebody calls himself a computer geek, I expect him to know that stuff.
    You need to understand binary, so that bits (b) and bytes (B) make sense.
    Once you understand bits and bytes, you can make "informed" decisions, like what Internet package to sign up for.

    Knowing the difference between binary and decimal, lets you can understand why your PC says, the HDD you just bought is only 1.8TB, when the shop said it was 2TB.
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  4. #54


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    As I see it, unless if you're a Linux computer geek or a Windows programmer, I don't find how knowing binary language is hugely helpful. Yes, you definitely should know about it, but not that in depth as what this whole sentence is in binary.

    A technologically competent person that knows lots of about computing technology should know in very large depth about Windows and even Linux, not just a superficial knowledge, but a through knowledge of it. Bits and bytes should be known about FOR SURE.
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  5. #55


    [QUOTE=pcRat;183511]
    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabasSackett View Post
    Now I remember, old timers complained about that change, as well as front wheel drive being unsafe, anti-lock brakes, power steering on semi trucks would make them lose control
    I don't like front wheel drive and ABS is not an issue since I haven't had a car with ABS for years. Moving the high beam switch was really more like adding the QuickLaunch bar to windows than whatever MicroSquash has done to the Windows shell.

    It's odd that I went from Win Me to Win XP with any issues and then went from XP to 7 without any issues.
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  6. #56


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    [QUOTE=BarnabasSackett;184792]
    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabasSackett View Post
    Now I remember, old timers complained about that change, as well as front wheel drive being unsafe, anti-lock brakes, power steering on semi trucks would make them lose control
    I don't like front wheel drive and ABS is not an issue since I haven't had a car with ABS for years. Moving the high beam switch was really more like adding the QuickLaunch bar to windows than whatever MicroSquash has done to the Windows shell.

    It's odd that I went from Win Me to Win XP with any issues and then went from XP to 7 without any issues.
    I really don't like front wheel drive, ESPECIALLY in the winter.
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  7. #57


    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    So Barnabas, if one of your students says they are going to buy a new computer with 8 installed how will you respond? By telling them not to because 8 is crap and buy 7 instead?
    Not my concern anymore than it's my concern if they want to buy a Fiat.

    I believe the majority of people not in school or working use computers for email, games and social sites.
    The majority of people who use computers for school primarily use them for email and games too.

    They don't understand how icons get on their desktop, much less know how remove, rearrange or hide them.
    They don't know how to navigate thru folders.
    They don't want to know, anymore than they want to know why they should downshift on a hill or why they should turn into a skid.[/quote]

    For a computer teacher to come here, complaining how smart those idiots aren't after paying him to teach them is ......
    They aren't the idiots
    My job isn't to teach them the basics of Windows. When I taught high performance driving I didn't expect my students to know what trailing throttle oversteer is but I did expect them to know how to check the air in their tires and start the engine.
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  8. #58


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    A good teacher believes that there is no such thing as a stupid question. The IT industry is not littered with good teachers. - Me
    There are stupid questions like, "If I go off the track and hit that tree will it damage my car?"

    There are also stupid people who ask questions and then ignore you while you are answering the question.
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  9. #59


    Here's a sad example of what people use their computers for and why they know so little about anything other than Facebook and Skype.

    In 2011 my daughter started college and needed the obligatory laptop computer. Last year she told me that she needed a new computer and I asked why. Not because it wouldn't run some program that she needed for class. Oh, noooo. There was some problem with the video driver and she couldn't watch YouTube videos.

    Talking to college students who schlep their computers everywhere, I ask them if they use them to write papers or do lab reports while on campus. The answer is most often, "No, I usually use it to watch YouTube or Skype with my friends."

    Back to my original point. Windows 8 looks like it is great for people who don't want to learn.
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  10. #60


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Computers for school is a joke. We all went thru school without a computer. I submit that the kids learn less with the computers than without because they are constantly sidetracked by all the facebooks, skypes, YouTubes and alike. Plus they stop using their neurons in their head.
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