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View Poll Results: Good Start Menu Replacement and Acceptance of Windows 8

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  • Having a good start menu replacement greatly enhances my acceptance of Windows 8.

    24 44.44%
  • Having a good start menu replacement enhances my acceptance of Windows 8, but not greatly.

    7 12.96%
  • Neither of the above

    23 42.59%
  1. #21


    Webster NY US
    Posts : 325
    Win 7 / Win 8


    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mbratch View Post
    Does Windows 8 have a "recently items" list?
    Good thought. Go run > type "recent." That's a potential helper with or without a start menu.
    Thanks znod. That's something that I like about having the start menu. Two clicks away for recent items. I use that frequently. But perhaps it's something that could be pinned to Start. Maybe I'll tinker with it.

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  2. #22


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    You are very welcome. And, good idea: why not pin it if possible?
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  3. #23


    South Coast NSW, Australia
    Posts : 615
    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    I voted for option 'B'.

    Although I can get around W8 perfectly well without a start-menu replacement, I do have Classic Shell installed, simply to keep some UI consistency between this machine (W8) and my other machines (7, Vista and XP).

    Wenda.
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  4. #24


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Invented the Rectangle


    Quote Originally Posted by mbratch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    Not the least is Microsoft, the brains that developed the means to make it all understandable to the masses.
    I think IBM is a remarkably talented and resilient technology company in light of the many market forces and changes that work against them. Microsoft has smart people, too. But they mostly take existing ideas, fiddle with them a bit, and do a great job marketing them and convincing people that MS invented them. Clever marketing and positioning is a significant driver of business success.
    Apple is the company that excels at this, "We invented the rectangle."

    I actually think that MS marketing has been rubbish, for the last 10 years or so.
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  5. #25


    Many members who use 3rd party start menus seem to be doing so for speed & productivity.
    Lets say we want to open Wordpad.
    Click mouse on start button, click All programs, click on Accessories, click on Wordpad

    Does anyone really believe that is faster than while keeping hand on mouse
    Press Window key with other hand, press W key, press the enter key or click mouse on Wordpad tile.

    I've been saving time since vista using the widow key & typing letter(s) of program or file
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  6. #26


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    I voted for option 'B'.

    Although I can get around W8 perfectly well without a start-menu replacement, I do have Classic Shell installed, simply to keep some UI consistency between this machine (W8) and my other machines (7, Vista and XP).

    Wenda.
    I am glad you participated.
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  7. #27


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    This poll is interesting to me, but it doesn't substantively or clearly get at what I'd most like to know in relation to having a desktop start menu and our proclivities to accept Windows 8 in a post-purchase, Windows 8 in-use environment. In conducting this poll, I am trying to get at the proportion of the Windows 8 Forums users experiencing that having a good desktop start-menu replacement enhances their acceptance of Windows 8. This approach is intended to distinguish primarily between the responses of two disparate groups: (1) those experiencing that having a good desktop start-menu replacement enhances their acceptance of Windows 8 greatly or to a lesser extent and (2) those not having such an experience--not having the experience of a good desktop start-menu replacement enhancing their acceptance of Windows 8 greatly or to a lesser extent. Individuals might not have such an experience because they don't use what they consider to be a good start menu replacement (e.g., no start menu replacement) in Windows 8 or the good replacement they use in Windows 8 does not enhance their acceptance of Windows 8.
    I'm flattered my poll gave you inspiration to start your own. Cool.

    BTW, to be clear, my poll asks if the OS came equipped with a start menu, would it have been readily accepted. We can debate the verbiage, but that's what I meant.

    Peace
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  8. #28


    Interesting poll, znod, but so as to make it clearer I think the last choice should be "I'm fine with the Start Screen" or "8 is fine the way it is". Not that I think you did it intentionally, but I think it is prejudice in that #1 Members that use 3rd party menu will be more attracted to the thread to vote. (this is my 2nd visit here after thinking on it awhile). #2. It's confusing as to the context of your OP.

    I voted the third because I didn't use the Start Menu all that much in Vista or 7. I also think I picked up 8 faster than most, not because I'm any smarter or proficient, but because I use a lot of shortcut keys. I rarely touch the mouse unless I'm zeroing in on something where it would be faster with the mouse. The WinKey has been my friend since Vista using 3D flip. (Or Alt/Tab) I think I navigate 8 faster than I did 7. It wasn't true at first, but with time I think I am, mostly due to the Start Screen.

    e.g. I even copy and paste whole words or sentences with the Shift/arrow keys -> Ctrl/C or V. If I'm copying a paragraph, then I'll use the mouse, for it's faster. I'll use keys to scroll in any direction of web pages, Start Screen, docs, Excel sheets, etc.

    With that, I'll post with Alt/S.
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  9. #29


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    This poll is interesting to me, but it doesn't substantively or clearly get at what I'd most like to know in relation to having a desktop start menu and our proclivities to accept Windows 8 in a post-purchase, Windows 8 in-use environment. In conducting this poll, I am trying to get at the proportion of the Windows 8 Forums users experiencing that having a good desktop start-menu replacement enhances their acceptance of Windows 8. This approach is intended to distinguish primarily between the responses of two disparate groups: (1) those experiencing that having a good desktop start-menu replacement enhances their acceptance of Windows 8 greatly or to a lesser extent and (2) those not having such an experience--not having the experience of a good desktop start-menu replacement enhancing their acceptance of Windows 8 greatly or to a lesser extent. Individuals might not have such an experience because they don't use what they consider to be a good start menu replacement (e.g., no start menu replacement) in Windows 8 or the good replacement they use in Windows 8 does not enhance their acceptance of Windows 8.
    I'm flattered my poll gave you inspiration to start your own. Cool.

    BTW, to be clear, my poll asks if the OS came equipped with a start menu, would it have been readily accepted. We can debate the verbiage, but that's what I meant.

    Peace
    Yes, I am trying to get at something different than you although the polls are somewhat akin. Thanks for clarifying and posting here.
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  10. #30


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Interesting poll, znod, but so as to make it clearer I think the last choice should be "I'm fine with the Start Screen" or "8 is fine the way it is". Not that I think you did it intentionally, but I think it is prejudice in that #1 Members that use 3rd party menu will be more attracted to the thread to vote. (this is my 2nd visit here after thinking on it awhile). #2. It's confusing as to the context of your OP.

    I voted the third because I didn't use the Start Menu all that much in Vista or 7. I also think I picked up 8 faster than most, not because I'm any smarter or proficient, but because I use a lot of shortcut keys. I rarely touch the mouse unless I'm zeroing in on something where it would be faster with the mouse. The WinKey has been my friend since Vista using 3D flip. (Or Alt/Tab) I think I navigate 8 faster than I did 7. It wasn't true at first, but with time I think I am, mostly due to the Start Screen.

    e.g. I even copy and paste whole words or sentences with the Shift/arrow keys -> Ctrl/C or V. If I'm copying a paragraph, then I'll use the mouse, for it's faster. I'll use keys to scroll in any direction of web pages, Start Screen, docs, Excel sheets, etc.

    With that, I'll post with Alt/S.
    Thank you for your comments. You are exactly one of the types of individuals that I hoped would/expected to choose the third option. I think that the poll is easy to reply to without thinking. That is, if neither the first choice nor the second choice applies (which should be clear), then your forced choice is the third one--which I think obviously implies that you are not having either of the experiences noted in the first two responses. I explained up front in more detail when the third choice would apply, and anyone can change their vote or choose to vote at any time. The dichotomy first (choice/second choice) versus third choice gets at exactly what I was trying to find out--the percents of those having the two "positive" experiences I elaborate on in post #1 versus the percent of those not having either of those experiences. I suppose that putting the first response first might attract some to the poll, but something has to go first. I guess I could have drawn the order out of a hat. But, I thought it would be better to have a logical flow that makes it easy to figure out how to respond. I am slightly concerned that some may not have responded that could have. I will add something up front to help out on this point. It will apply to everyone that might not have responded for some reason, but could have. Best to you.
    Last edited by znod; 22 Jan 2013 at 10:35.
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