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  1. #51


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I just wasted $40 for a Windows 8 license and installed it with VMware. And the first two simple things I tried don't work.

    1. When I wanted to use one of my own pictures as desktop background, it tells me that I do not have an application for that. Since when do we need applications to set a desktop background. It works neither from the picture directly nor thru Personalize.

    2. I always automate my logins with Netplwiz. That is a hit and miss too. It works a couple of times, then I have to loging manually again (although the little box is still unchecked).

    What a mess. All these functions worked in the prerelease versions. I knew I was wasting my money.
    Wow what a waste, a full operating system for less than half the price of most good games

    There was a guy on here a few days ago who said he found it exciting and challenging to find new ways of doing things, I feel exactly the same way, bit like an explorer or learning DOS the first time, but obviously you don't.
    Young man, I have been around computers since 1958 and learned about 50 different operating systems - that was my job. A new OS does not scare me. I can tell a good OS from a marginal one and for right now Windows 8 is marginal in my book - at least for the desktop user.
    Hi there
    well if you've been around operating systems (50) of them then you don't seem to have learned how to use the cmdline with Windows -- to get automatic login without entering a user name / password this has been around since "Pontius was a pilot" and STILL WORKS in W8 whether as a VM or a REAL machine.

    Simply in the cmd prompt type in control userpasswords2 (works as a normal cmd - you don't need an elevated cmd )

    Now you'll get a popup screen - and its simple. - No registry hacks, obscure 3rd party utilities etc etc etc.

    Screenshot enc. Just uncheck the box and follow the instructions.


    SIMPLE !!!!!! Q.E.D - Next question please. !!!


    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. #52


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    So sad that so many users really do not understand Windows 8 features.

    It actually does have hidden system menu.
    That is entirely Microsoft's fault.

    They are the ones who decided that all of the controls need to be hidden in invisible hotspots.

    @jimbo45

    The procedure you describe is basically the same if you use netplwiz (like whs)
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  3. #53


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post

    Wow what a waste, a full operating system for less than half the price of most good games

    There was a guy on here a few days ago who said he found it exciting and challenging to find new ways of doing things, I feel exactly the same way, bit like an explorer or learning DOS the first time, but obviously you don't.
    Young man, I have been around computers since 1958 and learned about 50 different operating systems - that was my job. A new OS does not scare me. I can tell a good OS from a marginal one and for right now Windows 8 is marginal in my book - at least for the desktop user.
    Hi there
    well if you've been around operating systems (50) of them then you don't seem to have learned how to use the cmdline with Windows -- to get automatic login without entering a user name / password this has been around since "Pontius was a pilot" and STILL WORKS in W8 whether as a VM or a REAL machine.

    Simply in the cmd prompt type in control userpasswords2 (works as a normal cmd - you don't need an elevated cmd )

    Now you'll get a popup screen - and its simple. - No registry hacks, obscure 3rd party utilities etc etc etc.

    Screenshot enc. Just uncheck the box and follow the instructions.


    SIMPLE !!!!!! Q.E.D - Next question please. !!!


    Cheers
    jimbo
    Same thing as Netplwiz - where is the beef.

    Btw: Most of the 50 operating systems were on real computers - not toys. Those were run by my secretaries in my days.
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  4. #54


    Palm Coast FLorida
    Posts : 370
    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)


    1. I use stardock decor8
    2. I use lastpass
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  5. #55


    I just wasted $40 for a Windows 8 license and installed it with VMware. And the first two simple things I tried don't work.

    1. When I wanted to use one of my own pictures as desktop background, it tells me that I do not have an application for that. Since when do we need applications to set a desktop background. It works neither from the picture directly nor thru Personalize.

    2. I always automate my logins with Netplwiz. That is a hit and miss too. It works a couple of times, then I have to loging manually again (although the little box is still unchecked).

    What a mess. All these functions worked in the prerelease versions. I knew I was wasting my money.


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    Such complaining just goes a long way to further confirm my growing suspicions that Microsoft does indeed have a variety of versions of Windows. This has been confirmed abundantly by them.
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    The $40 price *( $39.95 ) sounds like the download on the Internet without discs. The store price in the USA is $69.95 for a boxed version with two discs, 64 bit and 32 bit. It is Windows Pro.


    Fundamentally, to be technically accurate it is necessary to add the nomenclature identifiers. Referring to Windows 8 generically doesn't appropriately describe exactly what you get for your money. What you get is what you pay for. There have been traditionally several versions of Windows in past OS's.

    The Windows 8 Genealogy/family tree upgrades have roots in the older Win 7, several Vistas and several XP's. Depending on what the previous version was, Win 8 acts differently - to each previous version.:

    Versions in Win 8:

    * W 8 regional. OEM installed

    * W 8 RT. OEM installed.

    One of these versions comes preinstalled on Tablets and Notebooks and it is stripped down.

    The other is an OEM installed on new computers by manufacturers. It is NOT Windows Pro.

    * Windows 8 download from Microsoft *( no disc ). $39.95

    * Windows 8 Pro. Boxed version in stores for a clean install and/or upgrade. $69.95 ).

    * Windows 8 Pro upgrade, in store, in box, to upgrade Win 8 OEM to Win 8 Pro. *( $69.95 ) **( Bitlocker encryption, Remote desk top and more ). *** ( Windows Media Center is an additional purchase around $10 to $13 that requires a product key code. For TV, media ).

    * Windows 8 Enterprise *( Commercial for large users ). Special purchase, not for homeowners/private individuals.

    * Windows 8 Embedded *( Special application for OEM manufacturer ).

    * Windows 8 for China and other regional editions. *( Besides these the N-, E-, K-, and KN suffix editions are sold in special markets. These are missing some of the usual preinstalled applications.

    The most complaints I have heard come from those that installed the Win 8 Internet download from Microsoft without disc.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    *( There are certain countries that Microsoft will not download to, one of Which is China ).

    ______________________________________________________________________________

    If VMware isn't the latest version it may need to be upgraded. Or a "fix" may be necessary.

    In several cases of problems with Win 8 either an upgrade, or a fix or downloading drivers often works.
    Last edited by wetibbe; 22 Jan 2013 at 09:18.
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  6. #56


    Bill, I have the same problem with the password. I love Windows 8, but after several weeks the password will turn itself on again.
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  7. #57


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    The $40 price *( $39.95 ) sounds like the download on the Internet without discs. The store price in the USA is $69.95 for a boxed version with two discs, 64 bit and 32 bit. It is Windows Pro.
    This is a real rip-off by itself. A $30 difference in price for the same OS on a 50 cents CD.
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  8. #58


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    Such complaining just goes a long way to further confirm my growing suspicions that Microsoft does indeed have a variety of versions of Windows. This has been confirmed abundantly by them.
    You are confusing SKU with "version". A SKU, or Shop Keeping Unit, identifies a particular package. A version identifies the feature set. So, Windows 8 Pro Upgrade without disks and one with are two different SKU's, but they are the same version.
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  9. #59


    Mystere:

    Thanks. Actually I wasn't "confused" I was not informed !

    I bought a new HP Desktop 20 All in One computer last month with OEM installed Windows 8. It was not Win 8 Pro.

    My previous computer's hard drive crashed and I installed a new hard drive. Then I purchased Windows 8 Pro and installed clean. So I have both the Win 8 OEM and the Win 8 Pro. What I do not have is a Win 8 download from the Internet so I couldn't evaluate and I reflected that in my circumscriptive post above. I appreciate your clarifications about my suspicions.

    Since I have been burned more than once I won't download from the I-net. I need the discs in my hands for obvious reasons.

    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    As to the other issues raised above about logging on automatically and then kicking off and requiring a password, that has happened to me a couple of times. However, I am constantly tampering with things and including my LAN. I just haven't as yet been able to isolate the problem. It may be me messing around and it may be another of Windows 8's growing number of quirks. They are here alright, Several. But there are, at the same time, several plausible explanations and fixes many, it not most, of which are remedied by updates, downloads, drivers and fixes. Win 8 is leaving many in the dust !!!! Many are playing catch up.

    I think that maybe some of our esteemed friends in Win 8 may have caught a real tiger by the tail.
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  10. #60


    I think the $40.00 pricing is good only till the end of January 31, 2013 then goes to regular pricing so take advantage of cheap pricing now any one looking for a copy of Windows 8.
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