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  1. #41


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    I may as well jump in here too and chit chat.

    I purchased one of the very first IBM desk top 8086 PC's back in 1983, just about the time they introduced them. There was no Microsoft. No available store bought software. What a clunker. Like the old Model T Ford. A software company came along with the IBM salesman. He wrote the programs for our company's. Microsoft came along in the early 1990's.

    Another local/regional engineering/construction company went bankrupt in the late 1990's. Our then company acquired them and their assets including office equipment and personnel. I got one of their computers. It had only MS-DOS. Didn't even have a clock! By then there was quite a lot of commercially available software, actually quite good. One of the acquired company's accountants kept on using MS DOS ! Also one of that company's engineers shared an office with me. He persisted in using MS DOS ! I couldn't believe it. They wouldn't change ??? It was agonizing to see them even print something, typing in MS DOS each time.

    I bough a new Compaq Presario shortly thereafter and loaded it with all kinds of word processing and accounting/math software. But those characters just kept on plodding along the old way.

    I like Windows 8. Since I came from the old school I remember what it was like back then and how truly primitive the things were.
    I, too, came from that same era. I purchased my first IBM PC in 1983. Have been coding on PC's ever since. I was writing device drivers for the PC before there were books on how to do it.

    -Max ;-)

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  2. #42


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by lhorwinkle View Post
    Why would someone upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8?
    Aside from the (useless/annoying) Metro tile-fest, does Windows 8 have anything useful not found in Windows 7?
    On a desktop machine, no. I only upgraded myself because I'm a developer and have wanted to keep an eye on the technology but if I was asked to tell you that I need the new features in Win8. Nope. Not a bit of it. It's running fine on my machine but I could go back to Windows 7 (think about it every day, actually) and lose nothing.

    -Max ;-)
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  3. #43


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Thanks Coke Robot. I'll have a look at that.

    Update: didn't work.
    This is very odd. You did go to the advanced power settings dialog box right?
    Right.
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  4. #44


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Thanks Coke Robot. I'll have a look at that.

    Update: didn't work.
    This is very odd. You did go to the advanced power settings dialog box right?
    Right.
    You say you have Windows 8 in a virtual machine with VM Player? Can you try a new install of it or redownload the .iso image if possible? The oddities you're having doesn't even remotely sound normal in the slightest. Or even sfc /scannow?...
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  5. #45


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Thank you Coke Robot. But reinstalling the thing is too much trouble. It is not a big deal. I usually shut the Win8 off - rarely put it into sleep. It reboots in a few seconds and there the Netplwiz setting works now -> Like this when I had the early version: Start Win8 in vBox1.wmv - YouTube
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  6. #46


    So sad that so many users really do not understand Windows 8 features.

    It actually does have hidden system menu.

    * Place mouse arrow in lower left corner until a "Start" tile appears.

    * Right click to open the menu. Do not open "Start" - right click the little "Start" tile in the lower left corner.

    * Select the tool you want to launch. There are 16 selections.

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    Alternately and additionally:

    Windows 8 has a huge selection of keystrokes.

    When I bought my new HP 20 All in one computer it came with the wired HP keyboard and mouse. I prefer wireless so I replaced the wired HP with a Logitech M700 wireless, programmable, keyboard and wireless mouse "combo".


    To the extent that I was using the HP keyboard and mouse I could make the keystrokes work as expected. However, when I began using the Logitech's some keystrokes were no longer responsive. So I went to the Logitech website, found my models and downloaded the latest drivers. THEN the keystrokes became functional. I mention this for the benefit of anyone who may have upgraded Win 8 onto an existing computer. It may be necessary to go to the respective manufacturer's and download drivers for Win 8.

    You can just begin typing directly when the "Start" window is open .

    Keystroke "Window" *( That's the key with the Windows logo/emblem ). + Q *( windows+q) opens the search window. Don't type the + sign, just Windows q.

    There are several keystrokes that open a large number of selections which are essentially icons and words. * ( Icons are not tiles. Icons are little figures. Tiles are large areas with various content, words and drawings or pictures ).

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    There are several more Win 8 enhanced features. For example an easy zoom feature that lets me enlarge the screen in an instant for easier reading small print.

    There is a "voice" recognition feature.

    A math input panel that allows writing complex symbols in equations. I'm sure Win 8 will be popular with college kids and professors.

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    And - Oh yes ! Place the mouse arrow on the task bar and RIGHT CLICK. More menu will come up !
    Last edited by wetibbe; 21 Jan 2013 at 09:14.
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  7. #47


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    WIN+Q is handy and so is WIN+I. I guess we are going back to DOS and operate with keystrokes rather than the mouse.

    And you can copy shortcuts of the hidden system menu items if you go to:

    C:\Users\Your name\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WinX

    The shortcuts are in the Group2 and Group3 folders.
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  8. #48


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Hmmm.. It seems odd that the people that seem to dislike Windows 8 the most all like to brag about how they were using computers in the 50's or some such...

    There can't be a correlation.... I'm probably just imagining it...
    Hmmmm, you mean people with probably some of the greatest wisdom and experience when it comes to computers? There aren't many people that can claim that much personal history with computers. He's someone who has lived through the evolution of computers and from the sounds of things, is still involved. I think we should value his knowledge of computers and take his opinion seriously not make jokes and say hes bragging.
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  9. #49


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    By that logic, man would have never walked on the moon, transitioned to horseless carriages, or created an account on Facebook.

    Ok, so maybe the facebook thing is wise

    The fact of the matter is, sometimes you need new eyes to look at something. There's a story about how Steve Wozniak created the Apple II floppy disk drive. He says he had no idea how he was "supposed" to make a disk drive, and if he had it never would have been half as good. The point being, doing things the way they've always been done is not always the wisest course.
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  10. #50


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    By that logic, man would have never walked on the moon, transitioned to horseless carriages, or created an account on Facebook.

    Ok, so maybe the facebook thing is wise

    The fact of the matter is, sometimes you need new eyes to look at something. There's a story about how Steve Wozniak created the Apple II floppy disk drive. He says he had no idea how he was "supposed" to make a disk drive, and if he had it never would have been half as good. The point being, doing things the way they've always been done is not always the wisest course.
    This is just a bunch of useless motherhood.
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