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Well no matter how much I try to trick, tweak, update drivers, use alternative drivers my current system hardware just doesn't like windows 8. So I'm sadly reporting that I've returned to windows 7 until I replace all my hardware, which is not likely to happen any time soon.


The really sad part about this is, I truly enjoyed using windows 8 Pro. Once you get around the quirkiness of the metro screen, it's quite nice. I'll still be stopping in this forum now and again...if nothing else just to add my 2 cents worth.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X 4 965 BE
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
    Memory
    G-Skill 8 GB PC 8500
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD XFX HD Radeon 6790D
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2l Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
    Screen Resolution
    1600 X 900
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 320 GB w/OS
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB data storage
    PSU
    Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
    Case
    Thermaltake OverSeer RX 1 fulltower
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper212 120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510
    Mouse
    Razor DeathAdder 3.5
Not to worry. Any particular day I think about just tossing the thing and returning to 7 myself. Seems like every day I'm fiddling with something trying to get this thing to settle down. I'm just trying to avoid it because I don't want to go through another lengthy rebuild with my machine. I have too much crap to install.

Time will tell, though. If this guy doesn't settle down soon I may be joining you.

-Max
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 17R / Dell XPS 8300
    CPU
    Intel i5 (17R) / Intel i7 (XPS)
    Memory
    8GB / 8GB
I went back to Win7 on my main PC last Sunday. Win8 crashed and the repair/restore/reset utility did not work properly and so I just went back to the OS that I'm more comfortable (and productive) with. I'll install Win8 on a test PC, but not on my main PC for the time being...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 10 Pro 64bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built Intel i7-3770k-based system
    CPU
    Intel i7-3770k, Overclocked to 4.6GHz (46x100) with Corsair H110i GT cooler
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 OC Formula 2.30 BIOS
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 2133 Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX 980ti SC ACS 6GB DDR5 by EVGA
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, Corsair SP2500 speakers and subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27EA33 [Monitor] (27.2"vis) HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB (system drive)
    WD 6TB Red NAS hard drives x 2 in Storage Spaces (redundancy)
    PSU
    Corsair 750ax fully modular power supply with sleeved cables
    Case
    Corsair Air 540 with 7 x 140mm fans on front, rear and top panels
    Cooling
    Corsair H110i GT liquid cooled CPU with 4 x 140" Corsair SP "push-pull" and 3 x 140mm fans
    Keyboard
    Thermaltake Poseidon Z illuminated keyboard
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 wired
    Internet Speed
    85MBps DSL
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, MalwareBytes Pro and CCleaner Pro
    Other Info
    Client of Windows Server 2012 R2 10 PC's, laptops and smartphones on the WLAN.

    1GBps Ethernet ports
I've been having problems with programs slow to open, not responding to a click on a designated file type, and one program not opening at all. Rebooting "fixes the problem" but that's no good. It appears that the problems might be due to too many naps (ie going into sleep mode). I've turned off all sleep for a few days and things seem to be a bit better.

My system is dual boot so if I have to go back to Win 7 its quick and easy. I've only installed one program that's not in my Win 7 boot. I've booted in Win 7 every week or so to keep up the upgrades.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual Win 7-8 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Studio XPS8100
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 3.2 GHz
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 260
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Dell 24" LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    900GB and 1.5TB
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell Optical
    Internet Speed
    10 Mb/s down 1.5 Mb/s up
    Other Info
    I worked my up from a virtual machine, to a slow 32-bit celeron and now two monitors on my XPS8100. Works great!
Interesting. I have two year old hardware I that bought that worked fine with Windows 7 and worked fantastically better with ALL the Preview builds and up to RTM...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
Interesting. I have two year old hardware I that bought that worked fine with Windows 7 and worked fantastically better with ALL the Preview builds and up to RTM...

Interesting indeed, I've got 5 year old hardware that runs Windows 7 and Windows 8 like a champ.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
The only PC I've had issues with Windows 8 was this Compaq from around 2004 or 2005. Graphics driver works perfectly in Windows 7, runs Aero and the proper screen resolution just fine. In Windows 8, there are three screen resolutions available to use. Not ideal, and it would require a low end graphics card to get the proper display going. The driver from 7 doesn't work AT ALL for Windows 8 no matter what I did.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
I'm surprised it's taken people this long to realize how half-baked windows 8 is.

I'd say it's a little closer to seven-eights baked. ;)

The problems I have been having (however annoying they may be) have been relatively minor so far. I'm really trying to stick this out because this isn't unusual for a new O/S ... there's usually issues that need addressing. Most recently a Microsoft Update seemed to break my network connectivity through the hard wire. After restoring back to last Friday and installing all but that update it seems OK at the moment. I think I'm just going to try and let it settle down now, not take any updates unless they are critical and see how it goes. I really, really don't want to rebuild again. I've got so much stuff on my system (development tools etc.) that I really don't want to spend another 3 days re-configuring everything again. I just know that I'd get my system back to Win7 then want to crack open that development book and try a couple of things with the Metro programming, then I'd be back in the install mode again - and yes, I know, I can run it in a VM - but that's about as distracting, maintaining two machine environments.

I'd really like this to work.

-Max
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 17R / Dell XPS 8300
    CPU
    Intel i5 (17R) / Intel i7 (XPS)
    Memory
    8GB / 8GB
My current musing is that Microsoft's looking at the tablet/smartphone market versus the laptop/PC market and thinking the former is going up, whilst the latter are starting to steady out or possibly going down. The reason for this behavior of the market is that the average PC buyer in the past bought a PC to be a media consumer and light input (e.g., email or Facebook). Tablets and smart phones do media consumption just fine. The user base of people who actually have to create detailed content and design (CAD, software development, detailed photo editing, etc) who actually need a real PC with mouse are a small percentage. So Microsoft is playing the percentages, focusing on an interface for the tablet/smartphone market (i.e., Metro) and then just copying that over to the desktop/laptop to save themselves the costly effort of coming up with something special for that market. I don't think Microsoft really cares as much anymore about usability on the desktop. Recent numbers from Apple show that in their world, by far, the largest net income came from iPhones versus iPads, MacBooks, and iMacs. And the iMacs (desktops) were dead last. That's net income, not just units sold. If the WinPC market is doing the same thing, then the financial-minded company will follow the money.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 7 / Win 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T510 / HP ProBook 4540S
    CPU
    Intel i5-510m / Intel i3-3110m
    Memory
    4GB / 8GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
Microsoft's more concerned with the PC in general, regardless of form factor.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
Microsoft's more concerned with the PC in general, regardless of form factor.

Based upon what? The evidence doesn't seem very strong. Obviously they are currently still playing seriously in the PC market, but perhaps their interest is waning over time due to the market trends I mentioned.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 7 / Win 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T510 / HP ProBook 4540S
    CPU
    Intel i5-510m / Intel i3-3110m
    Memory
    4GB / 8GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
I've rolled back my two desktops and my laptop. WEI wouldn't run on my old Acer Aspire 5920. And the CIR wouldn't work no matter what driver I used. It was noticeably slower running 8 than it was running 7. My wife didn't like Windows 8 anyway and she uses the laptop a lot more than I do, so it was an easy decision to go back to 7. Metro apps were a major pain, one or two would just quit and wouldn't launch. Reset, refresh, and system restore all failed to fix it. I'd have to reinstall to fix it. It happened on both of my desktop PC's. They have very similar hardware, one is an ASUS M4N68T-M V2 and the other an M2N68-AM SE2. NVIDIA nForce 630a / GeForce 7025 chip-sets. On my main desktop PC the M4N68, Metro just locked up completely. No tiles would work, hot corners wouldn't work, task manager wouldn't work and I couldn't get to the desktop. Windows 7 runs just fine on all of these PC's. I got tied of reinstalling and went back to what works. :(
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
I've rolled back my two desktops and my laptop. WEI wouldn't run on my old Acer Aspire 5920. And the CIR wouldn't work no matter what driver I used. It was noticeably slower running 8 than it was running 7. My wife didn't like Windows 8 anyway and she uses the laptop a lot more than I do, so it was an easy decision to go back to 7. Metro apps were a major pain, one or two would just quit and wouldn't launch. Reset, refresh, and system restore all failed to fix it. I'd have to reinstall to fix it. It happened on both of my desktop PC's. They have very similar hardware, one is an ASUS M4N68T-M V2 and the other an M2N68-AM SE2. NVIDIA nForce 630a / GeForce 7025 chip-sets. On my main desktop PC the M4N68, Metro just locked up completely. No tiles would work, hot corners wouldn't work, task manager wouldn't work and I couldn't get to the desktop. Windows 7 runs just fine on all of these PC's. I got tied of reinstalling and went back to what works. :(

If you were having that much trouble, who can blame you?

-Max
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 17R / Dell XPS 8300
    CPU
    Intel i5 (17R) / Intel i7 (XPS)
    Memory
    8GB / 8GB
Microsoft's more concerned with the PC in general, regardless of form factor.

Based upon what? The evidence doesn't seem very strong. Obviously they are currently still playing seriously in the PC market, but perhaps their interest is waning over time due to the market trends I mentioned.


Based upon the fact that if they were wanted to pursue the tablet/smartphone market than the laptop/desktop one, they would had just focused on Windows RT on for ARM processors and kept Windows 7 for desktops/laptops and probably eventually have a situation like apple, where they have the mac very few people use versus the ios platform that is the hugest cash cow. Instead, it would be a start menu Desktop UI being used less versus a larger market share for Windows RT and Windows Phone, which would had ended up killing the PC that is we know. Instead, they took Windows 8 and RT, made them similar in UIs but dissimilar in hardware capabilities, and diversified the PC market to be touch oriented. In five years from now, I bet you that the amount of touch capable PCs will be a larger market than now.

Even then, this is something that even Steve Ballmer said himself when asked about the PC in the future. He said that the PC in the future will take on many different form factors, but what will make it the PC is Windows. Being a PC, this means VASTLY superior I/O ports and hardware than current phablets of android and ios. Right now, yeah, you can say Windows 8 isn't meant for the desktop, that's your opinion, not mine. Years from now, the desktop form factor will be/is the touch AIO PC. Some will keep a tower, some will even use touch monitors with them.

Point being, Microsoft will ALWAYS continue to back the PC, regardless of what form or shape or abilities it takes. Without it, there would an insignificant Microsoft.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
I found today that Windows 8 was taking an awfully long time go through the start routine before I could open anything, much longer than over the last few days. It's quite bewildering.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64
FYI: The PC in my specs is about 6 or 7 years old. Runs Win8 perfectly, been playing Dishonored without a single hiccup or crash.
Playing Fallout3, Alan Wake, Max Payne 3 and loading Borderlands 2.
I am also running it on about a 2 year old laptop, Dell Inspiron 1764 without a single issue.

Not to mitigate others who have legitimate issues, I just want to add the fact that I am not.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    I7-3770K
    Motherboard
    ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
    Memory
    CORSAIR 8GB 2X4 D3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX680 4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24" LED VG248QE
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG E 256GB SSD 840 PRO -
    SAMSUNG E 120GB SSD840 -
    SEAGATE 1TB PIPELINE
    PSU
    CORSAIR GS800
    Case
    CORSAIR 600T
    Cooling
    CORSAIR HYDRO H100I LIQUID COOLER
    Keyboard
    THERMALTA CHALLENGER ULT GAME-KYBRD
    Mouse
    RAZER DEATHADDER GAME MS BLK-ED
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    APC 1000VA -
    LGELECOEM LG 14X SATA BD BURNER -
    CORSAIR SP120 Fans x 3 -
    NZXT 5.25 USB3 BAY CARD READER -
    HAUPPAUGE COLOSSUS
hi guys,

Here at home, nobody has Windows7, simply because i upgraded everyone. No complains what so ever.

By the way, i consider a laptop as a sofisticated typing machine, it is a laptop, but hardly a computer.

yeah, i know, let it come to me.

Jeff
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WINDOWS 8.1 x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    INTEL CORE I--3770K LGA1155
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77-V
    Memory
    KINGSTON 2400 MHZ KHX24C11K4 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    INTEL HD GRAFICS 4000
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philip BDL3245€ 32 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 SAMSUNG 840 PRO RAID 0 ON BOARD 2 x 128 GB
    Keyboard
    LOGITEC MX™ 5500
    Mouse
    LOGITEC MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    120 Mbps
Rolling back to Windows 7 because of hardware issues makes sense. But that would be after making sure there aren't any fixes. Rolling back to 7 because you don't like the Start Screen is kinda silly. The desktop side of things is still "better" in 8 than 7, minus the annoyances - and you can get rid of the Start Screen by installing many 3rd party apps. So I don't quite get why people bother reverting for such trivial reasons.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
hi guys,

Here at home, nobody has Windows7, simply because i upgraded everyone. No complains what so ever.

By the way, i consider a laptop as a sofisticated typing machine, it is a laptop, but hardly a computer.

yeah, i know, let it come to me.

Jeff

No offense, but is your laptop "sofisticated" enough to spell-check? (It's spelled "sophisticated" if you're wondering).

LOL! Sorry ... I could NOT resist!

-Max :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 17R / Dell XPS 8300
    CPU
    Intel i5 (17R) / Intel i7 (XPS)
    Memory
    8GB / 8GB
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