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CES 2013: Industry Source -- More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusia

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    The only opinion that has depth to me is the opinion of the common consumer of technology. That's who REALLY is at the center of the debate. From my personal experience, that is outweighing what any "expert" has to say about Windows 8 as everyone that I've rolled it out on to is satisfied with it.
    And that backs up what I was saying. Your positive opinion on it is reflected by those you present it to.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    The only opinion that has depth to me is the opinion of the common consumer of technology. That's who REALLY is at the center of the debate. From my personal experience, that is outweighing what any "expert" has to say about Windows 8 as everyone that I've rolled it out on to is satisfied with it.
    And that backs up what I was saying. Your positive opinion on it is reflected by those you present it to.
    Not really, I just show the person how to use the new UI, how to close the full screen apps, what the Charms do, what PC Settings is used for, how to pin and unpin, and keep hitting on the fact that they need to either right click or use the Setting Charm. Purely a mundane tutorial of the features. I rarely make a big deal about where I'm like a salesperson on an infomercial screaming enthusiasm and saying if they don't like Windows 8, they can never contact me ever again with anything technical and/or I'll mess up their PC somehow.

    It's getting mundane for me to show how to use Windows 8 over and over, just like it is to explain to people here that are having difficulties with it. People are just more wowed by the new features of Windows 8, namely picture password. That trips mostly everyone I've shown it to. Just the whole newness aspect of Windows with the Start Screen, the feature set, and just doing old things like password logins into something new like a picture password is probably why I think most people like it. OH! And the fast shutdowns and startups, people REALLY enjoy that.
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    It's not straightforward to draw comparisons.

    There are many factors.

    You might say Ferrari have only a tiny percentage of the car market. That is because they don't operate in the entire car market. They operate in a small sector of it.

    Same with macbooks. They do well in their sector - but were down a bit over 5% in the xmas buying season.

    Windows pc sales were down about double that. A good proportion of the sales that were made would have been win7 machines.

    Apple had great xmas for their pads/phones.

    Does that mean folk are trading their windows pc's for ipads?

    Not necessarily. They may be hanging on to their pc's and buying an ipad as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Not really, I just show the person how to use the new UI, how to close the full screen apps, what the Charms do, what PC Settings is used for, how to pin and unpin, and keep hitting on the fact that they need to either right click or use the Setting Charm. Purely a mundane tutorial of the features. I rarely make a big deal about where I'm like a salesperson on an infomercial screaming enthusiasm and saying if they don't like Windows 8, they can never contact me ever again with anything technical and/or I'll mess up their PC somehow.
    I'm not saying you gush about how wonderful it is, only that you are not telling them how terrible it is.. and showing them how to use it. You are being proactive, and simply showing them how to use the tool and make their own decisions, rather than trying to force an opinion on them. By giving them the information they need to properly use it, you allow them to judge it based on the merits of the product, not their unfamiliarity with it.
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Yes, of course they do. And I'm sure that has NOTHING to do with you telling them how much it sucks all the time... nah.. i'm sure that has nothing to do with it.
    Well, as far as coworkers go, I work for a software company. People are pretty technically savvy. They came by and looked at my test box, and played with it for a bit. I presented both pros and cons (as I saw them).

    With respect to my family, nobody has really said much about Windows 8 or expressed any real interest. My dad saw a laptop I had at home once, and I logged in and let him play.....I showed him how to do a few things that he couldn't figure out on his own...(like getting out of a metro app) and getting back to the start page from the desktop. He frankly said, "yeah, I think I'll just stick to what I have".

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Our friends and family look to us for our opinions on technology, and how we present it to them greatly affects how they perceive it. This was, at least in part, some of the reason for Vista's problems. Techies decided they didn't like it, and they told everyone they could how terrible it was. This was evidenced by the Project Mojave experiment.
    As far as Vista goes...when it first released it was terrible. Slow as molasses, hardware requirements were far higher than they originally stated, etc. It came around and was fine after SP1....but don't be delusioned that it was just fine out of the gate. Third party driver support wasn't there, software wasn't ready for it, but mostly it was hardware that wasn't ready.

    On the right hardware, Vista was ok. On most peoples hardware, it was a trainweck. But like I said, over time and after SP1, it was much better.
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    People are just more wowed by the new features of Windows 8, namely picture password. That trips mostly everyone I've shown it to.
    To me, things like this just don't blow me away. From a security perspective, I think having a picture password is a terrible idea. So easy for somebody standing over your shoulder to gain access to your computer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    OH! And the fast shutdowns and startups, people REALLY enjoy that.
    As far as I am concerned, that is the best feature and the one people actually do like the most. Waiting for their computer to boot is just a thing of the past.
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  7. #17


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    With respect to my family, nobody has really said much about Windows 8 or expressed any real interest.
    Then why did you include friends and family in your list of people that expressed negative opinions?

    Why are you changing your story?
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