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  1. #71


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    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Oh well, at least its stopped everyone from bashing Windows 8 for a little while.

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  2. #72


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Oh well, at least its stopped everyone from bashing Windows 8 for a little while.
    True enough. It does demonstrate a very valuable point though. Back on post #7 in this thread, somebody said that SIW2 probably hadn't ever even used Windows 8. But as it turns out, even as somebody not enamored with the OS, he has not only used it extensively, but has built his very own Windows 8 PE environment........probably something that VERY FEW hardcore Windows 8 users have ever actually done.

    SIW2 knew that I would pick it out as I work with machine deployments and such as an IT guy. We do know Windows 8, we are fans and supporters of Microsoft....but that doesn't mean that we are going to universally love every single thing. Just because we don't love something doesn't in any way mean we don't know anything about it or how to use it.
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  3. #73


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    Also, if criticism weakens Microsoft then they deserve everything that they get. If criticisms aren't voiced, Microsoft would sit fat, dumb and happy thinking everything was fine; and if everything wasn't (ie sales going down the toilet), they'd have no idea as to what might be the problem.

    Not being able to accept valid criticism is like modern education, where all kids receive the same results whether they are performing well or poorly. They are never criticised and never find out about their failings until they hit the real world and suddenly come down with a thud.
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  4. #74


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Back on post #7 in this thread, somebody said that SIW2 probably hadn't ever even used Windows 8. But as it turns out, even as somebody not enamored with the OS, he has not only used it extensively, but has built his very own Windows 8 PE environment........probably something that VERY FEW hardcore Windows 8 users have ever actually done.

    SIW2 knew that I would pick it out as I work with machine deployments and such as an IT guy. We do know Windows 8, we are fans and supporters of Microsoft....but that doesn't mean that we are going to universally love every single thing. Just because we don't love something doesn't in any way mean we don't know anything about it or how to use it.
    yes, but like with everyone, not everyone can know everything. people become experts in what interests them. I'm sure there are plenty of Windows 8 people that know things that SIW2 doesn't because they're using Windows 8 in different ways than he is. one person may try every trick to make windows 8 into an upgraded clone of windows 7 while another person embraces the new features of windows 8. it all depends on what interests you.

    I keep reading someone complaining that you can't do so-and-so and I say, you mean do it like this? there's no way anyone can know everything. heck, I learn new things every day and I've been at it for a long time.

    and your sig is kind of hypocritical. if windows 8 is so bad, it wouldn't be necessary for its haters to repeat the same things over and over in multiple threads, especially things that are deceiving, ill-informed, or blatantly wrong. if it's so bad, people will find out on their own. it's not haters' job to show people the light.
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  5. #75


    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    and your sig is kind of hypocritical. if windows 8 is so bad, it wouldn't be necessary for its haters to repeat the same things over and over in multiple threads, especially things that are deceiving, ill-informed, or blatantly wrong. if it's so bad, people will find out on their own. it's not haters' job to show people the light.
    Agreed, I should get around to changing that sig block. I think the slow uptake, lack of business interest and overall fact that not many people in the real world are really talking about Windows 8 is proof that many people have either said "Yeah, no thanks", or "meh...not interested" An article on technology of 2012 called the MS release of Windows 8 "a slow motion belly flop". I thought that was a good way to describe it.

    I hope that my posts haven't been of the complete "ill informed" variety. In most cases, I say "such and such doesn't suit me...and I'm more of the problem". And it's often not that I cannot figure out how to do something (although I have found figuring out some of the stuff to be quite non-intuitive), but rather that I am just annoyed by having to do it a certain way.

    I've loved personal computers and Windows and Linux for quite a number of years. Unfortunately, they have been morphing into devices resembling smart phones more and more....and for me personally, that's something that I never wanted to see happen. I've had a smart phone for years, but I don't honestly do very much with it because I don't really like the way it works and operates. Sure, I can get it done...but I would always move to my desktop or laptop whenever possible. Sadly, these newer desktops and laptops are staring to work just like the smartphones....and I just don't find that appealing. Perhaps in 10 years or so, the metro touch screen apps will come to the forefront...but I don't see any way that the current crop of desktop apps is going anywhere. I mean....we've been transitioning from 32-bit to 64-bit apps for how long now?????....why would anybody think that the classic desktop is on the edge of extinction? But yet, this new interface is forcing these new changes on me right out of the gate. I just think it's too soon.

    Oh well, i've typed enough tonight (most of it on a Google Chromebook mind you )
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  6. #76


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    and your sig is kind of hypocritical. if windows 8 is so bad, it wouldn't be necessary for its haters to repeat the same things over and over in multiple threads, especially things that are deceiving, ill-informed, or blatantly wrong. if it's so bad, people will find out on their own. it's not haters' job to show people the light.
    Agreed, I should get around to changing that sig block. I think the slow uptake, lack of business interest and overall fact that not many people in the real world are really talking about Windows 8 is proof that many people have either said "Yeah, no thanks", or "meh...not interested" An article on technology of 2012 called the MS release of Windows 8 "a slow motion belly flop". I thought that was a good way to describe it.

    I hope that my posts haven't been of the complete "ill informed" variety. In most cases, I say "such and such doesn't suit me...and I'm more of the problem". And it's often not that I cannot figure out how to do something (although I have found figuring out some of the stuff to be quite non-intuitive), but rather that I am just annoyed by having to do it a certain way.

    I've loved personal computers and Windows and Linux for quite a number of years. Unfortunately, they have been morphing into devices resembling smart phones more and more....and for me personally, that's something that I never wanted to see happen. I've had a smart phone for years, but I don't honestly do very much with it because I don't really like the way it works and operates. Sure, I can get it done...but I would always move to my desktop or laptop whenever possible. Sadly, these newer desktops and laptops are staring to work just like the smartphones....and I just don't find that appealing. Perhaps in 10 years or so, the metro touch screen apps will come to the forefront...but I don't see any way that the current crop of desktop apps is going anywhere. I mean....we've been transitioning from 32-bit to 64-bit apps for how long now?????....why would anybody think that the classic desktop is on the edge of extinction? But yet, this new interface is forcing these new changes on me right out of the gate. I just think it's too soon.

    Oh well, i've typed enough tonight (most of it on a Google Chromebook mind you )
    You see that's where you people are wrong, the desktop is fading away and Microsoft knows it, I could have told you two years ago. It's not going to fade out overnight but it's dying, the new generation doesn't want them or need them, you can do most things on a tablet in the comfort of your lounge or on a train.

    These changes by Microsoft are not too soon, they're almost too late, if not too late. In ten years time Microsoft would have been dead for about 6 or 7 years. I can do most things on my Android phone, I can book a plane, I can book a hotel, I can use it as a Navigator and I can play Angry Birds.

    I personally use my tablets and phone much more than I use my PC, the only reason I now use my computer a lot more is because of Windows 8. I want Microsoft to succeed so that I can use a full blown OS in the comfort of my armchair or when I'm out travelling. I'll probably have a PC for a few more years but I doubt over four. Even my HTPC is getting less work because of all the different ways you can get and watch movies.
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  7. #77


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    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Oh, and the main reason I use my computer much more is because Windows 8 boots up almost immediately like my iPad, with Windows 7 I just couldn't be bothered waiting, and everything is a lot faster.
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  8. #78


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    Win 8


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    You see what annoys me is that I build computers and you people are destroying both Microsoft(trying to destroy)and indirectly the OEM's that I buy my parts from. You're virtually handing the computer world over to Apple.
    I'm not responsible for the disaster that is the Modern UI that is Microsofts fault. Now as a Windows 8 user It is perfectly reasonable for me to come on here and point out just what a debacle it is. If anything destroys Microsoft it is their folly of perusing a flawed concept not the users rejection of it.

    You could always start building Hackintoshes instead ;-)
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  9. #79


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    PP

    Hooray...the suspense was killing me
    You win the gold star and the bag of sweeties.

    Making your own small version of the o/s is a good way to learn about it.
    I guess you make that based on a Win8 DVD/ISO.
    So that's Win8 PE?
    And with Aero?
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  10. #80


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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    and your sig is kind of hypocritical. if windows 8 is so bad, it wouldn't be necessary for its haters to repeat the same things over and over in multiple threads, especially things that are deceiving, ill-informed, or blatantly wrong. if it's so bad, people will find out on their own. it's not haters' job to show people the light.
    Agreed, I should get around to changing that sig block. I think the slow uptake, lack of business interest and overall fact that not many people in the real world are really talking about Windows 8 is proof that many people have either said "Yeah, no thanks", or "meh...not interested" An article on technology of 2012 called the MS release of Windows 8 "a slow motion belly flop". I thought that was a good way to describe it.

    I hope that my posts haven't been of the complete "ill informed" variety. In most cases, I say "such and such doesn't suit me...and I'm more of the problem". And it's often not that I cannot figure out how to do something (although I have found figuring out some of the stuff to be quite non-intuitive), but rather that I am just annoyed by having to do it a certain way.

    I've loved personal computers and Windows and Linux for quite a number of years. Unfortunately, they have been morphing into devices resembling smart phones more and more....and for me personally, that's something that I never wanted to see happen. I've had a smart phone for years, but I don't honestly do very much with it because I don't really like the way it works and operates. Sure, I can get it done...but I would always move to my desktop or laptop whenever possible. Sadly, these newer desktops and laptops are staring to work just like the smartphones....and I just don't find that appealing. Perhaps in 10 years or so, the metro touch screen apps will come to the forefront...but I don't see any way that the current crop of desktop apps is going anywhere. I mean....we've been transitioning from 32-bit to 64-bit apps for how long now?????....why would anybody think that the classic desktop is on the edge of extinction? But yet, this new interface is forcing these new changes on me right out of the gate. I just think it's too soon.

    Oh well, i've typed enough tonight (most of it on a Google Chromebook mind you )
    Hi there
    whatever new / future versions of Windows brings (8 / 9 / 10 or 74 1/2) one can always run a Virtual machine with the classic desktop and apps the way you want them.

    Running a VM on any sort of modern machine - including some really humble Netbooks doesn't tax the computer too much and it can run at pretty well near Native speed.

    I even ran a Windows 2003 SERVER as a VM on quite a small humble NETBOOK (I did have to have 4GB RAM installed though and an SSD). The VM ran fine !! I was using Office 2003 at the time since our work hadn't upgraded to Office 2007 / 2010 . The laptop did absolutely OK even with a small 1.02 Centrino uniprocessor. - I'd modded the server to run more as a workstation OS rather than a server though.

    These days I have much more powerful laptops which can do this stuff with ease -- so I'm not too worried about having to change the way I work.

    So long as EXCEL, OUTLOOK,MS PROJECT, VISIO, WORD, PUBLISHER, POWERPOINT,and ADOBE Photoshop run the way I want then I'm fine.

    For Internet browsing I don't really care what interface or OS I use so long as I can open the wretched browser in a Window. I'm not at all a fan of the full screen Metro UI interface although for Movie playing full screen is normally OK -- although I stream stuff to a TV -- I always prefer a modern TV screen to any sort of computer monitor for movies.

    Windows 8 will trundle on -- can't see any specific sales problems with it -not too many people by all accounts are asking for "Downgrades" to W7.

    Lack of sales isn't due to the nature of W8 -- but the fact that laptop and desktop sales ARE declining -- we all use a variety of devices for all sorts of purposes where even as little as 2 years ago we would have used a laptop without thinking of anything else.

    Add to the mix that todays hardware doesn't need changing as much -- I'll guarantee that even a cheap Laptop has more compute power than "the average Joe" needs or uses - and if there is a problem I'll almost bet that 90% of the poor performance experienced by a typical user is down to really HORRIBLE and slow disks - always assuming enough RAM is installed which it usually is these days. - An SSD in almost ANY machine will improve performance no end.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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