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  1. #31


    UK
    Posts : 177
    Win 8


    MaloCS you make some good points, I often work full screen on my main monitor with the program that I am using for my primary task but will have multiple windows on my other monitors. I have no objection to full screen but I want the option. I am not supportive at all of imposing touch screen tablet principals onto a desktop environment.

    I am unconvinced by touch screen monitors for mainstream desktop systems certainly for working in office applications or writing code, I can see some advantages with a horizontal touch screen for working in PhotoShop, Illustrator or other graphic program with a stylus instead of a graphics tablet, it would be like using Photoshop Touch on the iPad.

    Prior to the iPad tablets never really took off because they imposed a desktop methodology on to a touch screen, tablet computing was regarded at best as a niche market at worst a failure, a square peg in a round hole. I can understand why Microsoft felt they needed a proper touch UI when they look at revenues generated by the iPad and the others, their mistake is to assume you can push it into the desktop environment, another square peg.

    I've always been an early adopter, I like trying new ways of working, I have liked each evolution of windows each improved on the last, I am not opposed to change but change needs to be for the better. I've experimented with other OSs but always kept using Windows because I found nothing better. Unfortunately I cannot see Windows8 with the Modern UI an improvement. Without the Modern UI it is another fine evolution of the OS.

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  2. #32


    Posts : 219
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Nuccii View Post
    It appears to me that too many people are approaching Windows 8 with preconceived ideas and listening to the negativity of others. Before I took the plunge, I did my research and read numerous articles on Windows 8. I prepared my computer and myself and when I upgraded I had no problems installing and using the OS.

    You have two ways of working with it, via the Start (Metro) interface or the Classic Shell, so what's the problem. If you have issues you cannot resolve yourself, the Windows 8 forum is a treasure trove of hints and answers. This site has excellent moderators, tutorials and members that can help you resolve your issues and questions.

    Windows 8 is by no means perfect but what else is when it's new. Maybe I am one of the lucky ones but I have no regrets on making the move.

    In case your wondering, NO, I do not work for Microsoft!

    Microsoft did not give us Classic shell. If they had, no one would be bixching in these boards. That one small move on their part, would have prevented so much of the backlash...
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  3. #33


    The whole scheme is a very steep learning curve, especially if your forte is NOT with a computer! No 'Classic Shell' choice, no easing -in, no 'this is what - what you USED to have - can look like now, or the carrying-over of ALL of one's settings, esp. with toolbar layouts - made by trial and error over many years - and now destroyed with no idea of where to look..., no nice little tutorial windows when one hovers over a 'field'. To be honest, XP is still king. Especially if one strips the fat off. But then again, if I had the money, I would have bought a Mac; if I had the intelligence and the time, I would spend some time with my Ubuntu programs. I only need to find out how to take the bloat out of these programs. Maybe just buying XP for a few quid?
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  4. #34


    UK
    Posts : 177
    Win 8


    There should have been the option in GP to disable Metro and apps or to disable the desktop. Giving the choice of one or the other, or both. If I was still looking after the IT in an organisation I would want Metro disabled, who wants their staff playing with apps? I want them on the desktop working!
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  5. #35


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Finally a Pro Windows 8 thread, I think they should ban the word Vista on this forum. In 12 months I don't know how many threads have started with, Is this another Vista.
    I can understand some of the criticisms, but man this is getting really, really boring. Even when a new person comes on here with genuine questions about Windows 8 he's immediately set upon by the usual anti Windows 8 culprits and told how to get back to Windows 7.
    I was going to make a couple of comments yesterday, but I know I would have ended up in the chill out room again or worse. I don't know why the administration doesn't have one forum for the haters so that any threads that start off with Vista or Me automatically get put in there.
    When people come to this forum they must get the impression that Windows 8 is the most useless piece of garbage on the planet when the opposite is correct.
    People come here for advice and new ways of doing things not to be belittled. I myself come here for the latest news and some positive information about Windows 8 but it's like a minefield.
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  6. #36


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by harrisonaard1 View Post
    The whole scheme is a very steep learning curve, especially if your forte is NOT with a computer! No 'Classic Shell' choice, no easing -in, no 'this is what - what you USED to have - can look like now, or the carrying-over of ALL of one's settings, esp. with toolbar layouts - made by trial and error over many years - and now destroyed with no idea of where to look..., no nice little tutorial windows when one hovers over a 'field'. To be honest, XP is still king. Especially if one strips the fat off. But then again, if I had the money, I would have bought a Mac; if I had the intelligence and the time, I would spend some time with my Ubuntu programs. I only need to find out how to take the bloat out of these programs. Maybe just buying XP for a few quid?
    I really wish you would have bought a Mac.
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  7. #37


    Posts : 1,770
    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    People come here for advice and new ways of doing things not to be belittled. I myself come here for the latest news and some positive information about Windows 8 but it's like a minefield.
    You seem overlook that this is the General Discussion section:

    Windows 8 discussion and general chat
    It's not the technical section/s where people ask for specific help/advice and where that advice needs to be on-topic. Discussion in this section does not have to meet with your approval of subject matter or tone of discussion.
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  8. #38


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    People come here for advice and new ways of doing things not to be belittled. I myself come here for the latest news and some positive information about Windows 8 but it's like a minefield.
    You seem overlook that this is the General Discussion section:

    Windows 8 discussion and general chat
    It's not the technical section/s where people ask for specific help/advice and where that advice needs to be on-topic. Discussion in this section does not have to meet with your approval of subject matter or tone of discussion.
    I wish I were allowed to use my usual tone of discussion, I can assure you, you wouldn't like it, but I'll play by the rules and let you people make sarcastic remarks to anyone and everyone who just happens to like Windows 8.

    You're like tag team wrestlers, when one jumps out of the ring another one jumps in.

    You see what annoys me is that I build computers and you people are destroying both Microsoft(trying to destroy)and indirectly the OEM's that I buy my parts from. You're virtually handing the computer world over to Apple.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'll bet Tim Cook comes here everyday and laughs his head off, hope you're having fun.
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  9. #39


    Posts : 219
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    When people come to this forum they must get the impression that Windows 8 is the most useless piece of garbage on the planet when the opposite is correct.
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    It is far from useless. I use it every day on my home (non-work) computer and have come to enjoy it (once I broke down and installed classic shell). There are some really great features under the hood besides metro (File history and Storage spaces to name just a few). Metro is not terrible, it is just not an adequate replacement for the start menu, if you are primarily a desktop user with a mouse. If it were an addition, I believe people would have welcomed it with open arms..

    This is why I say, this release could have been completely different had Microsoft done one small thing different. We all know what it is. So many will argue how the new is better, if you only just give it a try for a while. I did, and I disagree. I welcome metro, but not at the expense of other functionality. Everyone could have been happy, and those commercials Microsoft likes to run on TV about making Win 8 "yours" which gives this great illusion of choice within the operating environment, could have actually been true...

    Instead...
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  10. #40


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Yeah we know, everyone would have been happy if MS had just kept XP.
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