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Is this O/S another Vista in the make

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    Is this O/S another Vista in the make


    For two days i have been trying to get windows 8 up and running and it would seem that Microsoft has really taken another step backwards,by not only making false promises, but more importantly not testing their product before release, it is doing their image no good on upsetting the users of their product. BUT AT LAST I HAVE FOUND ONE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE SOLVED OF KB2770917 AS A THIRD PARTY LICENSING TO M/S .the way to directly solve it is just go directly NALPEIRON LICENSING SERVICES FOR THE UPDATE PATCH. But now trying to load windows media center is going to be another mission i got the key and downloaded and guess what. i received FAILURE UPGRADING WINDOWS. Seriously do you think that m/s would refund my two copies of windows 8 pro. I can see the tell tale signs of another vista and i do not want that experience ever again .Windows 7 is a stable O/S and i think i would rather wait until windows 9 comes out.

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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Hi,

    Sorry to hear of your issues - must be frustrating.

    I am afraid MS rushed it out. They have issued a number of attempted fixes for the technical problems.

    Win 8 isn't really like Vista - it is much worse.

    MS want to get the users completely online, charge them subscriptions, and control the content you can access.

    Win 8 is a big step towards that for them.

    If you understand that is an undesirable and regressive position, then don't buy win 8.

    If you already bought it - those who bought machines with it pre installed may be able to exercise so called "downgrade" rights and change to an o/s that is not so nasty.

    If you bought the uprade version - you should be able to get a refund by asking for it.
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    South Coast NSW, Australia
    Posts : 615
    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    I beta-tested Vista (RC1) on a P4 single-core with 768MB or RAM and a GeForce 4, and loved it.

    Slow, yes. But a basically good OS, and I could see the potential.

    That potential was realised with Win 7.

    Win 8 continues that evolution. It's great, under the bonnet.

    BUT, I want the eye-candy back. Performance isn't an issue here.

    Nor is the new interface, i am getting to like it.

    The eye-candy in Vista Ultimate SP2 looks so gorgeous even today.

    And most of the opposition to Vista was, and is, FUD.

    Wenda.
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    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Quote Originally Posted by economech View Post
    For two days i have been trying to get windows 8 up and running and it would seem that Microsoft has really taken another step backwards,by not only making false promises, but more importantly not testing their product before release, it is doing their image no good on upsetting the users of their product. BUT AT LAST I HAVE FOUND ONE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE SOLVED OF KB2770917 AS A THIRD PARTY LICENSING TO M/S .the way to directly solve it is just go directly NALPEIRON LICENSING SERVICES FOR THE UPDATE PATCH. But now trying to load windows media center is going to be another mission i got the key and downloaded and guess what. i received FAILURE UPGRADING WINDOWS. Seriously do you think that m/s would refund my two copies of windows 8 pro. I can see the tell tale signs of another vista and i do not want that experience ever again .Windows 7 is a stable O/S and i think i would rather wait until windows 9 comes out.
    Check here.
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    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    .... That potential was realised with Win 7.
    BUT, I want the eye-candy back. Performance isn't an issue here. ...
    And most of the opposition to Vista was, and is, FUD.

    Wenda.
    Agreed, except that some decent performance base is needed. And, I virtually never had a problem with Vista. Never had even one significant problem. I am not having problems with 8 either (except maybe small ones because I am using an old lappy with 8), but problems aren't the problem to hardly anyone that doesn't like 8. Some will have even terrible probs with any Win OS.
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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I like Vista a lot. Always have. Never had any problems with it. I still have it.

    In fact I spent some time making my own unofficial SP3 vista installation media just recently - that is how much I enjoy it.

    I don't doubt many others had issues - mostly not due to Vista itself, but technical problems from low spec hardware and lack of 3rd party driver availability - at least initially.

    Sadly, it got an undeserved bad rep and didn't sell well.

    When people say 8 is going to be another Vista - I think they mean it is going to sell badly.

    That is why I point out win 8 is not like Vista .

    It is very different. It has a purpose which is extremely undesirable.



    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    I beta-tested Vista (RC1) on a P4 single-core with 768MB or RAM and a GeForce 4, and loved it.

    Slow, yes. But a basically good OS, and I could see the potential.

    That potential was realised with Win 7.

    Win 8 continues that evolution. It's great, under the bonnet.

    BUT, I want the eye-candy back. Performance isn't an issue here.

    Nor is the new interface, i am getting to like it.

    The eye-candy in Vista Ultimate SP2 looks so gorgeous even today.

    And most of the opposition to Vista was, and is, FUD.

    Wenda.
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  7. #7


    Strathpine, Queensland
    Posts : 179
    Windows 8 Pro 64 Bit


    I had a weird love/hate for Vista. I mean, it was definitely a nice leap from XP eye candy wise, but to be honest, Windows XP still wins the OS section of myself. I loved Vista to an extent though, and if I could tweak it for gaming, it would be replacing Windows 8.

    I agree with SIW2's post though... Vista did have a bad time selling, and didn't have the best popularity among users either.
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  8. #8


    Quote Originally Posted by economech View Post
    Seriously do you think that m/s would refund my two copies of windows 8 pro.
    Oddly enough, they might. I believe that they have done so, for those that requested it.

    There may not be a Windows 9, under any name. MS has gone from a 95% market share of desktop and laptop PCs to 20% of the expanded market that includes smart phones and tablets. I don't know if they'll lose money, but they have lost control of the market. I imagine that terrifies them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by economech View Post
    Seriously do you think that m/s would refund my two copies of windows 8 pro.
    Oddly enough, they might. I believe that they have done so, for those that requested it.

    There may not be a Windows 9, under any name. MS has gone from a 95% market share of desktop and laptop PCs to 20% of the expanded market that includes smart phones and tablets. I don't know if they'll lose money, but they have lost control of the market. I imagine that terrifies them.
    What may be more terrifying to Microsoft is the prediction that the year of Linux has done an end run around them by coming in through smart phones.
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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Did you do an upgrade install?...
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