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What Windows 8 should have provided

  1. #41


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    When they built Vista, they put in all the glitz and glamour under the sun, people weren't happy.

    This time they stripped it to its bare bones, people aren't happy.


    With XP, people weren't happy


    With ME, people weren't happy


    I suppose when you're building an operating system for close to a billion people and nearly as many configurations of computers etc. you're going to be stepping on a few toes.


    When you look at Apple they've got less than a handful of configurations devided between two OS and yet they're always making mistakes, so I think MS is doing a reasonable job.

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  2. #42


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    You still don't understand. I will try and explain with an illustration, but that will take a bit of time.
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  3. #43


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    You still don't understand. I will try and explain with an illustration, but that will take a bit of time.
    Just don't make it a comical illustration, I've seen them all.

    I understand, but I also understand where Microsoft is coming from.

    I suppose when you look at my online name it's easy to think that I'm just a one eyed Microsoft lover, well that's wrong. I've got 3 iPads an Android tablet and an Android phone, as well as about half a dozen Pcs. Maybe that why I can see what Microsoft is trying to do, because none of theses things play nicely together.

    My opinion is that touch is the future, at least for now, tablets are the future and maybe even touch enabled laptops, as well as smartphones of course. Naturally an OS like Vista is not going to be able to bring any of these things together. But a completely stripped down version stands a good chance, I hope they succeed.
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  4. #44


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    This is a very rough illustration of what I'm suggesting Windows 8 should have provided for the desktop user (and maybe even tablet users):

    Click image for larger version

    How good would it be if you could size and locate the tiles in any way that you wanted, and in any reasonable number and be actively able to use. You could click on any of the apps and they would remain at that size, unless you wanted them full screen, and be able to interact with them directly.

    This would be especially handy for those with multiple monitors, as they could have one as an active information source and the other as the workspace for when doing word processing or whatever. If a Luddite like me can immediately see such an opportunity, and it's already possible to do something similar with desktop programs, why isn't this provided from the outset. Anyone with large/multiple screens is just crying out for some greater flexibility with the apps.
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  5. #45


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    I don't see anything wrong with what you're trying to achieve in that regard, but lets not forget, that Windows 8 had to be completely stripped down to work across multiple devices.
    Im sure that over time Windows 8 will evolve into a much better ecosystem and I'm one of the ones that hopes it does, but they had to start somewhere.
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  6. #46


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    Quote Originally Posted by davidvkimball View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    What 8 needs:

    1. Improved full-service start button on desktop
    2. Option of starting to desktop or Metro
    3. Eliminate inefficiency of having to go back and forth between desktop and metro (e.g.,not starting a task on the desktop and having to use metro before the task is done
    4. Get rid of charm terminology
    5. Return repair install as an option
    6. Clarify system builder/personal-use license
    7. Use consistent terminology in desktop and metro areas
    8. Get rid of flatness
    9. Quit pushing use of MS account
    10. Greatly improve functioning of IE in metro area
    11. Don't "require" IE to be default for proper functioning
    12. Sell "Retail" disc
    13. Better deign and looks makeover for metro
    14.

    I'll post more when I think of them.
    These are excellent thoughts. One thing I would say too (in light of your thought on the default browser), is make IE a consistent metro icon on the start screen, not ONLY when it is default but always.

    Have you noticed that when Chrome or Firefox is the default browser, IE mysteriously "loses" it's Metro app and becomes desktop only? That's WEIRD.
    Thank you. And, yes, on the iE thing; that's part of what I was getting at in item 11.
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  7. #47


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    IE could easily do it how Chrome does it instead. Toggles between Metro and Desktop with a setting.
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  8. #48


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    What is you think MS are trying to do, Bill?

    Not the way you think they are trying to do it - but what their aims are.

    Where do they want to be in 3-5yrs and where do they want the user to be?
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  9. #49


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    Quote Originally Posted by davidvkimball View Post
    IE could easily do it how Chrome does it instead. Toggles between Metro and Desktop with a setting.
    Ummm.. they do.
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  10. #50


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    What is you think MS are trying to do, Bill?

    Not the way you think they are trying to do it - but what their aims are.

    Where do they want to be in 3-5yrs and where do they want the user to be?
    I think they're trying to stay afloat, and really that's all that needs to be said.

    I think they're trying to make more money out of us, but maybe in a less painfull way.

    I'm positive they want to be in a better position in 3 to 5 years than they are now.

    Where do they want the consumer to be, I'd say, buying MS products not Apple and Android.

    Do they have the right formula, we'll find out.

    What do I want, I want a supercharged Vista with dancing Elephants on the screen. I want a $300 Windows 8 tablet with full Microsoft Office and a Retina display.
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