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What Windows 8 should have provided

  1. #21


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    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    It seems to me that you don't want to accept Windows 8 period. Instead of wasting your time looking for negative stories and moaning about the little things that are wrong, why not say things like, what I'd like to see in the next version of Windows 8 is. Blah, blah, blah..

    Maybe you can ask the administrators of this forum to come up with a new Forum like, "What we'd like in Windows Blue" then everyone can have a say about what they want, as long as they block the words Start Menu and Aero.
    You're getting very bitter and twisted over this and taking it extremely personally. It is after all just a piece of software made by a company that really couldn't give a rats about your opinion, or mine. But it will give a rats if enough people point out its shortfalls, as they see them, and that may prompt some action if there's consistency. You might observe from my moniker that I am a fairly prolific Windows user and I hope that Windows 8 does succeed, but that does not preclude me from voicing my opinions about aspects of its implementation that I find poor.

    You also seem to get things very mixed up about what I say, as I've never really had an issue with the lack of the old start menu (it's easily brought back) or the aero interface. Attributing complaints made by others to me, or implying that they fall in the same basket, shows that you're struggling to maintain a rational debate and emotion is taking over. Time for you to pause, I think, and take stock of what this is all about.
    Im not getting bitter and twisted, that's you looking in the mirror. I'm happy with Windows 8 and the path Microsoft is taking. The thing that is boring me is the same rhetoric every day. You're the one that thinks Microsoft cares about what you think, they're fighting for survival, you're fighting for yourself.

    You take it as a personal insult what Microsoft has done, I see it as a step into the future, and it is a first step the same as Windows when it first started. I can accept the change you can't.

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  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Im not getting bitter and twisted, that's you looking in the mirror. I'm happy with Windows 8 and the path Microsoft is taking. The thing that is boring me is the same rhetoric every day. You're the one that thinks Microsoft cares about what you think, they're fighting for survival, you're fighting for yourself.

    You take it as a personal insult what Microsoft has done, I see it as a step into the future, and it is a first step the same as Windows when it first started. I can accept the change you can't.
    I'm quite a happy Microsoft camper, no twitter and bisting from me, just facts. And kudos to you and your contentment, but if boredom is what afflicts you, then would it not be better to abstain from things that cause such afflictions?

    I must also assume that English is not your first language, else you would not misinterpret this:

    '...a company that really couldn't give a rats about your opinion, or mine.'

    to mean:

    'You're the one that thinks Microsoft cares about what you think,...'

    It's also odd that you would anthropomorphise what a company has produced, into something that would cause personal insult. The world that you live in is curious indeed.

    Finally, I've been living through tumultuous change for the last six decades, change is a fact of life. I wouldn't be here if I couldn't adapt to change. However, adapting is one thing, mindless following is another.
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  3. #23


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    What Microsoft should have provided with windows 8 is no updates needed less than 30 days after release. My oem install update was several hundred MB of updates right out of the box NOT a good omen. Then to find out that a update in 6 months (windows blue) hope it doesn't refer to BSOD. This tells me the release was half baked and rushed out the door. NOT a good omen.
    We're fortunate that MS gives us updates as exploitable are found and ways to improve performance. Otherwise they could keep putting out a new version every month with the updates on OS disk.

    Every OS had updates out of the box.

    If we really don't like updates, we can check the box saying we'll check for updates ourselves. And never check !
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  4. #24


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    . I'm quite a happy Microsoft camper, no twitter and bisting from me, just facts
    I think I see the problem, your perception of being happy is different to mine. Anyway I'm getting bored on this subject so I'll leave you with the final word.

    Oh I forgot the subject of this thread, I hope MS listens to you, and puts that spinning wheel on your copy of Windows.
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  5. #25


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    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    What 8 needs:

    1. Improved full-service start button on desktop
    2. Option of starting to desktop or Metro
    3. Eliminate inefficiency of having to go back and forth between desktop and metro (e.g.,not starting a task on the desktop and having to use metro before the task is done
    4. Get rid of charm terminology
    5. Return repair install as an option
    6. Clarify system builder/personal-use license
    7. Use consistent terminology in desktop and metro areas
    8. Get rid of flatness
    9. Quit pushing use of MS account
    10. Greatly improve functioning of IE in metro area
    11. Don't "require" IE to be default for proper functioning
    12. Sell "Retail" disc
    13. Better deign and looks makeover for metro
    14.

    I'll post more when I think of them.
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  6. #26


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    Many of the things you list make a lot of sense for the user.

    They don't make sense for MS.

    It is not about making it better for the user.

    It is about pushing the users into the MS new business model.

    That involves some kind of subscription service, and reduced control and choice for the user.

    You won't see it in the commercials, of course.
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  7. #27


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    Good question.

    I am not sure some are being deliberately difficult or argumentative.

    There are large variations among humans.

    E.G. those over 6ft may be able to reach the top shelf - those under 6ft cannot.

    Same applies to levels of comprehension.

    Ray 8

    Is it that you truly don't understand, or simply don't want to understand/acknowledge what is being discussed?
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  8. #28


    what ever the discussion
    some feel 8 is a disappointment
    some feel 8 is a improvement
    we will find out in a year or 2
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  9. #29


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    W8.1, W7


    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    What 8 needs:

    1. Improved full-service start button on desktop
    2. Option of starting to desktop or Metro
    3. Eliminate inefficiency of having to go back and forth between desktop and metro (e.g.,not starting a task on the desktop and having to use metro before the task is done
    4. Get rid of charm terminology
    5. Return repair install as an option
    6. Clarify system builder/personal-use license
    7. Use consistent terminology in desktop and metro areas
    8. Get rid of flatness
    9. Quit pushing use of MS account
    10. Greatly improve functioning of IE in metro area
    11. Don't "require" IE to be default for proper functioning
    12. Sell "Retail" disc
    13. Better deign and looks makeover for metro
    Very good.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Many of the things you list make a lot of sense for the user.
    They don't make sense for MS.
    It is not about making it better for the user.
    It is about pushing the users into the MS new business model.
    That involves some kind of subscription service, and reduced control and choice for the user.
    You won't see it in the commercials, of course.
    Very good 2.

    Those posts should be made stickies.
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  10. #30


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    Bill must be hyper-bored now with all these additional comments.
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