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What Windows 8 should have provided

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I am not the only one who finds the Windows 8 apps screen rather useless; however, I do find astounding the complete antipathy by a few to even discuss the potential that has been lost with the way Microsoft has implemented the apps. It's now supposed to be a perfect implementation because that's what Microsoft has delivered?
    Windows has taken time to evolve from 1.0 to 8, we now have version 1.0 of the Modern UI which is also going to evolve but you want it NOW! It sounds to me that YOU expected a perfect implementation that would satisfy everyone in a version 1.0 release.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I am not the only one who finds the Windows 8 apps screen rather useless; however, I do find astounding the complete antipathy by a few to even discuss the potential that has been lost with the way Microsoft has implemented the apps. It's now supposed to be a perfect implementation because that's what Microsoft has delivered?
    Windows has taken time to evolve from 1.0 to 8, we now have version 1.0 of the Modern UI which is also going to evolve but you want it NOW! It sounds to me that YOU expected a perfect implementation that would satisfy everyone in a version 1.0 release.
    i think he wanted it made just for him in just the right way, it's too bad that Microsoft is splashing out all the money.
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  3. #13


    What Microsoft should have provided with windows 8 is no updates needed less than 30 days after release. My oem install update was several hundred MB of updates right out of the box NOT a good omen. Then to find out that a update in 6 months (windows blue) hope it doesn't refer to BSOD. This tells me the release was half baked and rushed out the door. NOT a good omen.
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  4. #14


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    I love how all these things that have historically happened suddenly have new meaning about how crappy Windows 8 is. Guess what? Windows 7 had updates even before it was officially released. Guess what? Windows 7 SP1 was released 8 months after the RTM release (same timeframe as Windows Blue).

    Why is it that jokers like you have to always come along and make bizarre and irrational claims about things that are historically normal?
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  5. #15


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Windows has taken time to evolve from 1.0 to 8, we now have version 1.0 of the Modern UI which is also going to evolve but you want it NOW! It sounds to me that YOU expected a perfect implementation that would satisfy everyone in a version 1.0 release.
    Not at all. I've never expected anything perfect to come out of any software company first time round, or even with updated versions. There will always be glitches and things that have been overlooked, that's a hazard of the trade with so much coding involved. But the user interface is critical to anything new and this is where things have failed badly.

    The removal of the start button doesn't bother me, there are plenty of third party fixes that work well. But it's the inability to do so little with the apps and to be forced to use all of them full screen that is utter madness. I am still astounded that something as obvious as being able to size and place apps any which way on a desktop has been completely ignored (or rejected).

    Just take an example of using Windows 8 on a home entertainment unit. You can't have a TV program showing in a reduced size while you have your email, Facebook, Skype apps and whatever else floats your boat, open in reduced sizes, at the same time as well. What you have to do is flick from one to the other because everything has to open up in the full 60" screen of your TV. I can get picture-in-picture (with multiple channels) right now on my TV, but I couldn't get anything like that with Windows 8 apps.

    Yet I can do just that with Windows 7 programs, and I do exactly that on my dual monitor setup. It's implemented differently in Windows 7 yes, but what mental spark would it have required to provide the same with Windows 8 apps? Was Microsoft so focussed on tablets and phones (the area they are struggling in), that the baby was thrown out with the bath water?
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    "Just take an example of using Windows 8 on a home entertainment unit. You can't have a TV program showing in a reduced size while you have your email, Facebook, Skype apps and whatever else floats your boat, open in reduced sizes, at the same time as well. What you have to do is flick from one to the other because everything has to open up in the full 60" screen of your TV. I can get picture-in-picture (with multiple channels) right now on my TV, but I couldn't get anything like that with Windows 8 apps."

    You see it's just like I said, you want Microsoft to tailor make it to your needs, forget that 95 % of the population never uses what you're talking about.
    I've got a HTPC and I couldn't care less about Facebook and email and any other rubbish on there, it's a HTPC for Gods sake.

    Windows 8 makes for a much better HTPC than Windows 7, it almost looks like it was actually made for it, and you're complaining about email and Facebook.

    And the live tiles really do look great on a TV.
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  7. #17


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    You see it's just like I said, you want Microsoft to tailor make it to your needs, forget that 95 % of the population never uses what you're talking about.

    I've got a HTPC and I couldn't care less about Facebook and email and any other rubbish on there, it's a HTPC for Gods sake.

    Windows 8 makes for a much better HTPC than Windows 7, it almost looks like it was actually made for it, and you're complaining about email and Facebook.

    And the live tiles really do look great on a TV.
    See, you're again making more wrong assumptions and ignoring the basic facts of what's being discussed. I don't use any of those apps, I don't have Facebook, twitter or any of those accounts, but 100s of millions of people do (checked how many people are on Facebook lately?). Nor do I use my TV for anything but TV. However, ironically, you're the one who is insisting that because you don't need any of those features, no one else does.

    All I'm saying is that those features would enhance Windows 8 greatly. I'm suggesting improvement and I'm asking why is such not possible or been implemented from the outset. Rather than being a Luddite, I'm thinking outside the square and not blindly accepting what's on the menu.
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  8. #18


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    It seems to me that you don't want to accept Windows 8 period. Instead of wasting your time looking for negative stories and moaning about the little things that are wrong, why not say things like, what I'd like to see in the next version of Windows 8 is. Blah, blah, blah..

    Maybe you can ask the administrators of this forum to come up with a new Forum like, "What we'd like in Windows Blue" then everyone can have a say about what they want, as long as they block the words Start Menu and Aero.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    It seems to me that you don't want to accept Windows 8 period. Instead of wasting your time looking for negative stories and moaning about the little things that are wrong, why not say things like, what I'd like to see in the next version of Windows 8 is. Blah, blah, blah..

    Maybe you can ask the administrators of this forum to come up with a new Forum like, "What we'd like in Windows Blue" then everyone can have a say about what they want, as long as they block the words Start Menu and Aero.
    You're getting very bitter and twisted over this and taking it extremely personally. It is after all just a piece of software made by a company that really couldn't give a rats about your opinion, or mine. But it will give a rats if enough people point out its shortfalls, as they see them, and that may prompt some action if there's consistency. You might observe from my moniker that I am a fairly prolific Windows user and I hope that Windows 8 does succeed, but that does not preclude me from voicing my opinions about aspects of its implementation that I find poor.

    You also seem to get things very mixed up about what I say, as I've never really had an issue with the lack of the old start menu (it's easily brought back) or the aero interface. Attributing complaints made by others to me, or implying that they fall in the same basket, shows that you're struggling to maintain a rational debate and emotion is taking over. Time for you to pause, I think, and take stock of what this is all about.
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  10. #20


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    What was just basically described is a fuller fleshed out live tile...
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