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    Win8 OEM System Builder License


    Here is a link concerning the new OEM System Builder license. (Edit: Perhaps I should have emphasized originally that I am talking about the OEM System Builder [Personal Use] License even though that is what I linked to). Below is a snip of, to me, its key provision, although there are other important provisions allowing use on a second machine and sale to a another individual. MS always seems to muddy the water when it comes to the OEM System Builder license. Ignoring the VM possibility, the way I read the snip is that 8 can be used, for example, as one of the operating systems of a dual boot given installation on a separate partition. Do you think that this literal interpretation is what MS means. Why would a dual boot, for example, be required? And, why wouldn't one be able to install on a second drive--not just a separate partition?

    OK fine, even if my literal interpretation is correct, then I, for one, am up for buying a Win7 computer, partitioning it, and going for the OEM system builder dual boot--thus extricating myself from the clutches of MS, my computer manufacturer, and crapware. Also, why not just buy a new Win8 machine and obliterate everything there--starting over with UEFI, if desired, and doing the dual boot.

    My understanding is that MS is being pretty loose, at least informally, in interpreting its OEM System Builder license. I doubt that even, for example, the dual boot thing is an operational requirement. What would be the point?

    I am interested in anything you have to say about the interpretation given above and about the MS operational interpretation of it OEM System Builder license.
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    Here's more for the System Builder EULA.

    https://www.eightforums.com/general-d...tml#post129488
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    hi, ms is not say it has to be used in a duel boot ,they are saying it canbe used in single boot or a duel boot on your present computer ,lets say running win7 ,,and i think a harddrive partition is considered a another hard drive ,when it comes to duel booting .


    quote-thus extricating myself from the clutches of MS, my computer manufacturer, and crapware.

    dont see how you think that using the system builder version will solve this delmia.
    i think the only way to solve that is sell you computer and buy a pet rock .lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    hi, ms is not say it has to be used in a duel boot ,they are saying it canbe used in single boot or a duel boot on your present computer ,lets say running win7 ,,and i think a harddrive partition is considered a another hard drive ,when it comes to duel booting .
    That is not how I read what MS wrote WRT to anything you say. Do you have evidence that what you say is true. I am looking for experience or something in writing that provides decent evidence that MS is, or is not, to be taken literally on this important matter. duel not = dual.


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    quote-thus extricating myself from the clutches of MS, my computer manufacturer, and crapware.

    dont see how you think that using the system builder version will solve this delmia.
    i think the only way to solve that is sell you computer and buy a pet rock .lol
    Clean install.
    Last edited by znod; 30 Dec 2012 at 19:05.
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    I'm not so sure that I should wade into this subject but as they say - where Angels fear to tread.

    I have to admit up front that I haven't researched this subject in great depth. But from what I read so far I'll comment knowing that I may not be accurately addressing the questions.

    But first let me add that my grandchildren are Whiz Kids at computers. My Granddaughter, 22, graduated college and she is currently working for a law firm. Her present goal is to go on to law school next year. Her apparent interest is in "intellectual property". So I'm interested in this thread to discuss with her soon.

    As to Microsoft's "clutches" they do not sell their software. They only license it. So that's a "gotcha". According to one of my Grandsons he can hack me in 30 minutes and bypass my passwords. Further he claims he can download music and Microsoft OS's including Windows 8 free. *( I saw that one young lady was taken to court for pirating music and she was convicted ).

    I'm ambivalent about lawyers, some good, some bad, some absurd. But whenever you are in very deep doo do they are certainly popular. Whatever they write is always subject to breaching, circumnavigation, flaunting, but with the luck of the draw, in major cased, the breach of patent or protection or pirating is always subject to legal redress that can cost millions.

    I have just set up a 3 computer wireless network. First is a new purchase 2 weeks old HP desk top with Windows 8. Second HP desktop with Windows 7. Third HP desktop with Windows Vista. Following the advice of a poster, I didn't partition disc. He said - Don't do it. It apparently amends some older registry. I know that it complicates setting up a network.

    I upgraded #2 this week from W7 to W8 with purchased disc. Unfortunately I can't upgrade #3 because it doesn't have sufficient RAM and it will be 32 bit which I do not want in W8. But, all computers are on my local area private network in home group and communicating. *(I still have a couple of issue to resolve but they should be soon ). All three talk to each other. They all recognize my one printer. And I can access library's, folders and files. *( There's a painful glitch with passwords that needs to be resolved ).


    I purchased the W7 - W8 upgrade at Costco for $66.99. I was considering the MS W8 download costing $39.99 for #3.


    So now we enter into the arena of honesty, morality and piracy. Each to be triaged. The $39.99 download, according to my understanding, can be saved to a disc or a flash drive. Legally it can be added to a hard drive in partition. It can be installed also onto a computer(s), owned by the purchaser. Technologically this appears, at least on the surface, to be possible.

    So what is to prevent me, or others, from passing the disc or flash drive along to my family and friends ? Seemingly nothing but my conscience. But maybe also not !!!

    The offer to sell W8 for $14.95 to anyone who purchased a computer after June 2012 with W7 is limited to 5 purchases. A 6th will be rejected. According to what I have found, those who want to game the system have applied for computers dating back 1 and 2 years but somehow MS chose to reject. They knew !

    I'm a very old timer at this dating back to the 1980's. I remember when a computer cost $8, 000 and there wasn't any software. We had to hire a software writer for $3,000. In the 1990's I paid $1,500 for a computer. 5 years ago a terabyte cost over $2,000. Today you can buy a terabyte for around $119 - $130!

    Today, that is currently, I paid $499 for a computer with 500 GB and the software included.

    I can't fault either Microsoft or Hewlett Packard. They have produced magnificent advances in technology that have placed computers and software into the realm of affordability for hundreds of millions. So I find Microsoft's discounted offers entirely reasonable.


    But, there is always a but, there is usually method to madness. As Gillett used to say: We'll give you the razor, you buy the blades !!! Enough said ! i.s. hint- *( Ms apps store ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Here's more for the System Builder EULA.

    https://www.eightforums.com/general-d...tml#post129488
    Yep, that's the whole story. Do you have any thoughts, information, etc., about the issues I raise? I'd be interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    As to Microsoft's "clutches" they do not sell their software. They only license it. So that's a "gotcha". According to one of my Grandsons he can hack me in 30 minutes and bypass my passwords. Further he claims he can download music and Microsoft OS's including Windows 8 free. *( I saw that one young lady was taken to court for pirating music and she was convicted ).
    I didn't have in mind getting out of MS's clutches when it comes to licensing vs owning.

    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    I have just set up a 3 computer wireless network. First is a new purchase 2 weeks old HP desk top with Windows 8. Second HP desktop with Windows 7. Third HP desktop with Windows Vista. Following the advice of a poster, I didn't partition disc. He said - Don't do it. It apparently amends some older registry. I know that it complicates setting up a network.
    Partitioning wouldn't be a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    I upgraded #2 this week from W7 to W8 with purchased disc. Unfortunately I can't upgrade #3 because it doesn't have sufficient RAM and it will be 32 bit which I do not want in W8. But, all computers are on my local area private network in home group and communicating. *(I still have a couple of issue to resolve but they should be soon ). All three talk to each other. They all recognize my one printer. And I can access library's, folders and files. *( There's a painful glitch with passwords that needs to be resolved ).
    I am glad you are making such good progress.

    Thank you for your comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    hi, ms is not say it has to be used in a duel boot ,they are saying it canbe used in single boot or a duel boot on your present computer ,lets say running win7 ,,and i think a harddrive partition is considered a another hard drive ,when it comes to duel booting .
    That is not how I read what MS wrote WRT to anything you say. Do you have evidence that what you say is true. I am looking for experience or something in writing that provides decent evidence that MS is not to be taken literally on this important matter. duel not = dual.


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    quote-thus extricating myself from the clutches of MS, my computer manufacturer, and crapware.

    dont see how you think that using the system builder version will solve this delmia.
    i think the only way to solve that is sell you computer and buy a pet rock .lol
    Clean install.
    no evedince ,just the way i read it ,i don't have win8 upgrade ,but i would assume it has to be used to upgrade the present os on you computer ,so you would not be able to duel boot with thw win7 you have installed now .
    i have duel boot win7 and win8 [with xp pro in VM]but both are full version ,not upgrade.and i think im perfectly within what it said in your first post link
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Here's more for the System Builder EULA.

    https://www.eightforums.com/general-d...tml#post129488
    Yep, that's the whole story. Do you have any thoughts, information, etc., about the issues I raise? I'd be interested.
    Basically, it's the same as all OEM copies.

    Only one activated installation per key.
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    Maybe I am missing something, but the Q&A's say:

    "Can I transfer the software to another computer or user? You may transfer the software to another computer that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software (together with the license) to a computer owned by someone else if a) you are the first licensed user of the software and b) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. To make that transfer, you must transfer the original media, the certificate of authenticity, the product key and the proof of purchase directly to that other person, without retaining any copies of the software. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the software came on to transfer the software. Anytime you transfer the software to a new computer, you must remove the software from the prior computer. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between computers. You may transfer Get Genuine Windows software, Pro Pack or Media Center Pack software only together with the licensed computer."
    Last edited by znod; 30 Dec 2012 at 16:31.
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