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Win8 OEM System Builder License

  1. #11


    Good luck:

    I am intensely interested as I will transmit to my Granddaughter, next couple of days.

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  2. #12


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    This person makes an interpretation like mine in post #1. Quoting, she says:

    "This week, one of my contacts passed on to me a new bit he learned about the planned system builder pricing, which will be what white-box vendors (smaller OEMs) will be expected to pay per copy for Windows 8. Microsoft officials also have said the do-it-yourself (DIY)/build-your-own-PC crowd and those installing Windows 8 in a virtual machine or separate partition will be able to purchase System Builder versions of Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro."

    Here's another although it may implicitly refer to the above article.

    And another, but this one doesn't menton the separate partition part.

    Another

    Here's another that says almost exactly what I did in post #1: The pertinent quote is as follows:

    "
    I run Windows in a virtual machine (VM) on my Mac. What's the damage? Looks like $99.99 for Windows 8, $139.99 for Windows 8 Pro, is the cheapest bet for now.

    Those are Newegg.com's pre-sale prices for what Microsoft is now calling "System Builder" -- formerly known as "OEM" -- an edition aimed at small-scale or homebrew PC makers, as well as users who want to run the OS in a virtual machine or in a dual-boot setup on a Mac or PC.
    "

    They go on and on. Here is the last one I will link. And, one more quote taken from this link:

    "
    It's the System Builder license that has changed. The System Builder license is still the license that small OEMs will use on the machines that they build and sell. However, it has a new usage right: the Personal Use license. With the Personal Use right, end users can buy a System Builder license and use it on a machine they self-build, or as an operating system installed on its own partition in a dual-boot configuration, or in a virtual machine."
    Last edited by znod; 30 Dec 2012 at 22:54.
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    Good luck:

    I am intensely interested as I will transmit to my Granddaughter, next couple of days.
    Check out the quotes above. The authors' interpretations are the same as my original ones. And, transmitting seems OK as long as you follow the rules--assuming I am understanding what your are planning to do.
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  4. #14


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    I think your miss the point on that original link.

    System Builder product may be used:

    •As the operating system on a PC you build for personal use.
    •As an operating system running either on a local virtual machine or as an additional operating system in a separate partition.
    There are 3 ways to use the OEM system builder software.
    1) it can be installed as the only OS on your system
    2) it can be installed as a Virtual OS on a system with another OS.
    3) it can be installed on another partition (same drive or 2nd drive) as a dual boot.

    The restriction is it can only be installed on one PC at at time in any of the 3 ways, but can be moved to another PC after you un-install it from the previous PC.

    Jim
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    Yep, that's what's said above. Do you have any evidential support for "our" view to add? My only problem with the view is that MS is so notoriously bad at saying what it means that it may not mean what it said. But, heck they said it; they are going to have to live with it--at least for a while. I think I'll buy my system builded ASAP, before they take their words back. Otherwise, I still don't understand why they tie things to running on a VM or on a separate partition in a dual boot. Why not just let individuals buy it and do what they want with it? What's the point unless it is to limit purchases of the system builder/personal use license combo. Whatever, MS says "you may transfer the software to another computer that belongs to you." MS says that without qualification about how it is installed. Go figure. Silly Company. Can't think for squat.
    Last edited by znod; 30 Dec 2012 at 20:14.
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  6. #16


    Covington, La
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    VM and Dual Boot are not requirements, they are additional choices in addition to a single OS install.

    Jim
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  7. #17


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    I indicate clearly above that the two items you mention are alternatives. Indeed, that's part of the main thrust of this thread. See post #1. Single install is only OK initially if you are doing a DIY rig.
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  8. #18


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    I really don't understand what your question is. You've written a lot of convoluted things, and various responses... it's unclear to me what it is exactly that you're asking, and that's why you're getting such varying responses because I don't think anyone else knows what you're asking either.
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    I think that no one is reading what I have written particularly carefully. Some of what I have written may be somewhat complicated, but not convoluted. How about going back to square one? I think you are a good reader. I think that you will understand if your read carefully and don't put too much store in what the off topicers and hip shooters say. It's all easy and very clear if the reader knows what to emphasize. To get started, especially emphasize my first paragraph in post #1. Things should flow smoothly from there if you ignore all the irrelevancies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    hi, ms is not say it has to be used in a duel boot ,they are saying it canbe used in single boot or a duel boot on your present computer ,lets say running win7 ,,and i think a harddrive partition is considered a another hard drive ,when it comes to duel booting .
    That is not how I read what MS wrote WRT to anything you say. Do you have evidence that what you say is true. I am looking for experience or something in writing that provides decent evidence that MS is not to be taken literally on this important matter. duel not = dual.


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    quote-thus extricating myself from the clutches of MS, my computer manufacturer, and crapware.

    dont see how you think that using the system builder version will solve this delmia.
    i think the only way to solve that is sell you computer and buy a pet rock .lol
    Clean install.
    no evedince ,just the way i read it ,i don't have win8 upgrade ,but i would assume it has to be used to upgrade the present os on you computer ,so you would not be able to duel boot with thw win7 you have installed now .
    i have duel boot win7 and win8 [with xp pro in VM]but both are full version ,not upgrade.and i think im perfectly within what it said in your first post link
    I don't think you are on topic.
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