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Just a heads up about Windows 8 pricing.

  1. #11


    Cyprien's book Windows 8 Step by Step is a false Windows 8 prophet.

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  2. #12


    pcRAT:

    You're a hoot ! You definitely earned my respect for your obvious knowledge. Your input about the symbols was absolutely spot on and VERY educational. So I'm definitely listening to your comments. I actually edited my Xmas mailing list and used your input. I'm really very appreciative. *( Haven't heard back from the original poster but I'm sure he can succeed. Maybe he threw in the towel too early).

    Cyprien's book is only one of a dozen. It is an official Microsoft publication ! There is another more expensive $35. I will check it out tomorrow. But Cyprien's book helped me out tremendously. I would have been floundering and wallowing without it.

    Now to address the Microsoft free "capability" checker that evaluate your computer's adequacy to run Windows 8, I ran it on my HP Slimline, Desk Top, PC, about 5 years old with Windows Vista. Independently I had already ascertained my computers vital statistics and determined that the hard drive space was adequate, the speed Hz was OK and very thing was good to go except the RAM. I have 893 MB whereas Windows 8 wants 1 GB for 32 bit and 2 GB for 64 bit.

    Disaster struck. I was rejected as under capacity. No go. It installed on my computer. Next time I booted up I couldn't get on the Internet or on my local network. It had essentially knocked out the network connection as well as the Internet connection. I spent several hours phoning my ISP, HP and Netgear. And I got lots and lots of MYP not my problem this and that supplier. Basically I resolved it myself using Windows 8 diagnostics. The crux of the matter was a nomenclature misstatement asking for a disc to install drivers. But it referred seemingly to the router. Finally I ascertained that the disc was for then USB plug in Netgear mini adapter. I installed the disc and reactivated the adapter. Got the blue LED back and through manipulations got back on line, Internet and network.


    What the Microsoft evaluator did was disable my network, disable my Internet connection and even go in to the "innards" and reset my settings to -"work off line". After hours I have finally undid all of the mayhem and I am back on track.
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  3. #13


    I've been called a hoot before. Except my wife & kids use the term 'bird-brain'.
    I'm not that knowledgeable really. I've only been on 8 for about 2 weeks. Mostly learning the terminology, the basics and a few customizations. I'm kind of a neat freak (don't like icons all over a nice picture on my desktop) so I use a file cabinet on left edge of screen.
    I bought Windows 98 for Dummies at a yard sale once. After 15 minutes it made a great bonfire starter. Since then it's been computer groups.
    Anyway, glad you got your pc going.
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  4. #14


    Philadelphia
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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    It seem that a price increase is apparently coming soon.
    Again, I'm going back to my previous comments, but you are posting information that is common knowledge. Anytime a new OS is released, it is cheap right away to speed up adoption rates. This is not a new phenomena. We're all used to it. That leads me to your next comment...
    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    The Windows 8 phone is a new one on me. First I heard about it. It is NOT in Cyprien's book Windows 8 Step by Step.
    If you really want to learn about computers, Windows, etc, stop turning to books. Our industry changes far to fast for print media to keep up with. My suggestion would be to stop posting threads that treat common knowledge as breaking news, and take some time to read around...here and some tech news sites, like Neowin, etc. Licensing and versions aren't the easiest concepts to get at first, but once you do, then all new versions will be much easier to decipher. When you get stuck...ask questions.
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
    If you really want to learn about computers, Windows, etc, stop turning to books. .

    lol, I purchase 5 to 10 computers books a months, I like books
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    It seem that a price increase is apparently coming soon.
    Again, I'm going back to my previous comments, but you are posting information that is common knowledge. Anytime a new OS is released, it is cheap right away to speed up adoption rates. This is not a new phenomena. We're all used to it. That leads me to your next comment...
    Quote Originally Posted by wetibbe View Post
    The Windows 8 phone is a new one on me. First I heard about it. It is NOT in Cyprien's book Windows 8 Step by Step.
    If you really want to learn about computers, Windows, etc, stop turning to books. Our industry changes far to fast for print media to keep up with. My suggestion would be to stop posting threads that treat common knowledge as breaking news, and take some time to read around...here and some tech news sites, like Neowin, etc. Licensing and versions aren't the easiest concepts to get at first, but once you do, then all new versions will be much easier to decipher. When you get stuck...ask questions.
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    I appreciate your advice, however, turning to books is commonly pervasive among those of us who actually understand and who are freely motivated.

    It is an implausible absurdity to think that a person could abandon books and supplant them with posts on this or any other forum. The book I have on Windows 8 is 741 pages and 21 chapters plus addendums. If I took your advice I would be on the internet 20 hours daily or months and swamp this forum with questions.

    I use a combination of books, forums and the extensive "help" facilities.

    My post was basically rhetorical. Did I have questions - absolutely yes;
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    Errata, updates, questions:

    From some feedback apparently some people disagree with some of the above. Others do agree. There is a lot of information floating around.

    Errata: Now the end date for downloading the $39.95 offer from Microsoft ends January 31, 2013 instead of December 2012, according to their website.

    Updates: It seems that there is also a Windows 8 for phones which I missed.

    Questions:

    My new computer came with Windows 8 pre-installed. I checked the computer properties and it says simply - "Windows 8" and not Windows 8 pro.

    Q; So do I have W8 regular ? The "upgrade" from W8 to W8 Pro costs $66.99. What do I get for the $66.99 ?

    I upgraded another computer this week from Windows 7 to Windows 8 Pro with a disc I purchased at Costco for $66.99.

    Q; Both versions on both computers look the same to me. And act the same. What am I missing ?

    The $39.95 download from Microsoft has some suggested "latitude". It won't be a disc.

    Q; I'm told that the download can be made using .ISO and stored on either a CD or a flash drive. An HD disc, 4.7 GB or a 3 GB flash drive will apparently hold the data. So which is better ?

    Microsoft's conditions of acceptance contain wording to the effect that there is one sale for one computer. A second download will cost another $39.95 up to maximum 5 computers. A 6th will be refused.

    Q: If the download is made on one computer can the CD or flash drive be used on a different computer legally ? Can the CD or flash drive be used technologically, or legally, on a second, third or more computers ?
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    This is getting complicated:

    Now there is a Microsoft OEM systems builders license.

    Apparently the Windows 8 license isn't too clear to me. There was a Windows 7 license costing $180 discounted to $130. Limit of 5.

    Any clarifications ?
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  7. #17


    Comparison of RT, 8, and 8 Pro:

    Which Windows is right for you? - Microsoft Windows

    Windows Media Center is available for a limited time for free for Pro. (Restores DVD playback capability.)

    I prefer installing Windows from a USB flash drive. I haven't compared it on 8, but on 7 it took much less time. (I think that it was roughly half the time of a DVD.)

    I don't know what the safest medium is for long-term archiving of the download. It may not matter; Microsoft probably will allow you to re-download it in the future. (That was true of Win7 purchased as a download from the Microsoft Store. The download included SP1 after that came out.) Backup copies are a good idea; my original Vista upgrade disk delaminated after a few years. It's unusable.

    As far as I know, you can use the installation medium on as many machines as you've purchased licenses for. The FAQ for the $14.95 upgrade (for a PC sold with Win7 between June and January) explicitly states that upgrade may be installed on a different PC than the one that qualified for the upgrade. (Again, one license per PC.)

    The Upgrade Assistant muddies things further. It gives you the Win8 upgrade at the same bit level (32 or 64) as the machine that you run the Assistant from; there's no choice, even though an older 32 bit version of Windows can be used to qualify the 64 bit upgrade license (for a clean install only, no upgrade-in-place from X86 to X64). Both bit levels are included in the $70 retail upgrade package.
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  8. #18


    Philadelphia
    Posts : 214
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by molebo View Post
    lol, I purchase 5 to 10 computers books a months, I like books
    Yes, lol...let's lol at the obvious points being missed. I buy many books per year...but what happens to them over time? Why is that?

    Books are fine for specific applications that are finalized and released. Books are awful tools for something fluid, dynamic, and ever-changing. Think about the process to compose and book and put it in print. Think of how long that takes...and when you apply it to the timeline of Windows 8, it makes absolutely no sense to use it as a reference for something that wasn't even finalized and has changed since that point.

    When a topic is still in the hypothetical stages, you can't claim it to be the bible on the subject. If we all did that, every author in the world would be a fortune-teller. They make excellent references after the fact...not before.

    Besides, to steal the words of the OP...anyone who "understands" (thanks for the assumptive dig at me), knows that the best way to learn an OS, is to roll up your sleeves and get dirty with it.
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  9. #19


    Deacon:

    Oops, sorry. Still friends ?

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    Bobkn:

    I saw the prices in Staples, a large office supply store near me. The price tag said Windows Pro $69.99, then $130 off - offer ends XXXX 2013. I thought it said February. I asked the salesman and he told me it would jump to $199.

    Here too is a link to the article confirming the price jump. It says January 31, 2013.

    Windows 8 Pro To Cost $199 When $69.99 Promotional Period Ends | Redmond Pie

    I have seen all sorts of offers on the Internet - even one for FREE Windows 8. Of course there are all sorts of conditions and strings attached.

    Just remember that the "on line" purchases can include sales tax and shipping and handling. I have gotten socked with some pretty large shipping and handling.
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  10. #20


    Bring it at $ 199 MS, Bring it, that will give more reasons to peoples to stay away from 8.
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