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  1. #71

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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64

    Quote Originally Posted by gazz9496 View Post
    i think what your forgeting is the purpose behind the start screen.

    it's not meant to be a direct replacment of the old start menu, but an evolution of it instead where live tiles are the norm and you can view instantly what is happening in any given app.

    if you can utilise the start screen and the apps to get that live info to it's fullest then it is more efficent, it's just not that easy to do sometimes, takes a bit of lateral thinking outside of the box.
    I actually do understand that and I can use the new 'Start' menu quite well. Nor did it take any great amount of time to learn how it works. That said, I don't like it, I prefer the 'old' desktop method. They both achieve the same end results; however, I feel the Windows 7 desktop style is more efficient and functional - for me.

    I have spent quite a lot of time with the new start menu and it has significant shortfalls. I can understand where and why of it, but it falls short on a desktop. Some people accept that a mobile phone menu is great on a desktop, others don't. I'm not going to repeat what I've said elsewhere regarding what the start screen should offer, but if it did, then I would be singing a completely different tune.

    No one is going to convince me that the Windows 8 is half-baked, at best, for a desktop. I keep reminding people to just think if all you had available was the new apps style for all of your programs, no desktop at all, how would you find that and what would you crave?

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  2. #72

    I actually like Windows 8. I had some trials and tribulations in the beginning, but now that I've settled in to it, I like it. A lot.

    The only interface tweak I did was: How to skip Start Screen natively without using any third-party tool. Prior to that I had simply moved the Desktop tile to the first position so I could press <enter> and go directly to the Desktop. Other than that, I'm using it pretty much as Microsoft designed and intended.

    So shoot me.
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  3. #73

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    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    I don't care about live tiles. In my earliest post within this thread, I made the statement that I had yet to glean any information from live tiles that justifies using them instead of nice clear icons that make it easy to know what program I am opening. I stand by it. I like the concept of a windows store built into the OS. Live tiles might be useful I guess, for someone who just wanted to stare at their start screen, waiting for and interesting live tile update. That ain't me. I think they tried to be innovative, but I don't see any other companies copying this any time soon. Android widgets are way better, many of them offering the ability to control the app strait from the icon widget. Now, something like that might be useful.

    Anyhow.. time will tell if someone takes a crack at answering my question.. Why did they not give people a choice?
    that's true and i question it every day myself, it does seem like for some they are fine and other's just don't see the point in them.

    i'm somewhat fine with them but don't really see the point in them.

    it's healthy to question something new and descern whether it is a good idea or not.

    as to why? it seems like they felt icons that show no information other than the app name were boring and felt they could do better.
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  4. #74

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    Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit

    Wow! I've been Testing Win 8 since their Consumer Preview beta and I don't see how anybody from noobs to IT Techs can
    appreciate the credentials this OS offers. I get a different glitch everyday that I use Win 8 ! It's amazing that MS hasn't been able to stabilize the final product into a smooth offering. Win 8 HAS laid an egg like the aggressive Chicken that it is! It's no wonder that Windows Blue has been mentioned as a successor in the Summer. This OS is too progressive for the consumer public and that's it in a nutshell. Back to Windows 7 Ultimate, solid contender that it is. Tremendously stable, right on time.
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  5. #75

    Quote Originally Posted by Positronics View Post
    Win 8 HAS laid an egg like the aggressive Chicken that it is! It's no wonder that Windows Blue has been mentioned as a successor in the Summer. This OS is too progressive for the consumer public and that's it in a nutshell. Back to Windows 7 Ultimate, solid contender that it is. Tremendously stable, right on time.
    If Microsoft wants to save Window8 they need to get Windows blue out next month. On the net on other forums I read more and more of this occurring at a good rate they want choice and not having there systems turned in TOY systems.
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  6. #76

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    Windows 8.1 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacy View Post
    Interesting points?

    1. A user name was not required until Win 7 – which gave you the option of using the same name as the computer – Win 8 insists on a different user name which shows up in uploads and NOT the computer name. Since I have a stand-alone computer and I know what my name is, why does Microsoft insist I have a user name at all?
    2. Yes, Experience programs are options – exactly where in the instruction manual does it point out where all these MANY hidden options are?
    3. Exactly where in the instruction manual can you find the hidden GPS locater options? More to the point – why does Microsoft want to know your location?
    4. If I’m not mistaken, didn’t Microsoft advertise the new Internet Explorer can be used without 3rd party add-ons?
    5. Where in the instruction manual does it say that their new Windows pdf reader is BASIC?
    6. Classic Shell can resize windows so I can have ‘more than two’ windows on the screen at the same time.
    7. I believe Microsoft advertising for Windows 8 is border-line consumer fraud.
    8. Oh, and exactly where is the instruction manual?
    9. So, I’m not wrong. I don’t misunderstand and very little on Windows 8 is the same as it’s always been. What the heck are YOU talking about!
    1) No. Windows NT based Windows has *ALWAYS* required a user account, and it has *NEVER* allowed the computer name itself to be that account. The reason for that is related to the way that ActiveDirectory works. In ActiveDirectory, a computer itself has an account, as does the user. These must be two different things, even when not using ActiveDirectory.

    The fact is, you are very wrong about this. Very very wrong. This has been the case Since Windows NT 3.1, and changed when users moved from Windows 9x to XP. It was the case in NT 4, 2000, XP, Vista, 7 and 8.

    2) There is no "instruction manual" in Windows, nor has there ever been one as far back as I can remember. I think Windows 3.1 might have come with a simple one, but that is a long way off. As such, all your arguments about "show me in the instruction manual" are complete and utter BS. Customer Experience options are displayed in popups. They're not hidden, and they do not default to on. You *MUST* enable them for them to collect data.

    3) GPS location is not about Microsoft locating you, it allows applications to know where you are so they can provide relevant data, such as you current weather, or where a restaurant near you is located. This is about giving *YOU* tools, and again it's not turned on by default. You have to give each app permission to use location services. Or, you can turn it off completely. You will only see this option if you have a GPS in your device, and then it's right in settings.

    4) I have no idea, I dont' typically pay attention to advertisements. Even if they did, you absolutely can.

    5) This is just a stupid statement. Stupid. Where does it say it's advanced? Come on. Really?

    6) No, it can't.

    7) You can believe whatever you like. Doesn't make it true.

    8) See #2

    9) Yes, you're wrong. You're very very wrong.
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  7. #77

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    Windows 8.1 Pro

    But, I never had a smartphone until like a few years ago....and it was a droid. So was I raised with a smartphone?

    I do know I was raised on Windows 95 and on...

    And I love the Start Screen of Windows 8.
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  8. #78

    Posts : 219
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit

    So, you love the start screen? Great. Awesome for you. Still does not mean that it should not have been kept in the OS as an option for those who prefer it. Would you be upset, or like the OS any less if the Start screen were still available as an option? I doubt you would..
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  9. #79

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    Windows 8.1 Pro

    I don't believe I'd be upset if it were an option, but it'd make me confused as to why have one and the other when you can just stick with one...

    But that's me.
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  10. #80

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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64

    This is why it seems that companies like Stardock Corporation are in business; they realise that the Microsoft way is not the way of every individual, no matter how much Microsoft tries to wall them into their way of doing things. They bring back the start button (Start8), provide more flexibility with managing and organising your desktop (Fences), and so on.

    Did Microsoft produce Windows 8 so that other companies actually had a reason to provide software that allows people a better computing experience? Like the aftermarket industry for cars, Microsoft has spawned an industry dedicated to improving their latest product. A year or so of Windows 8 previews has shown industry that this is not what all people want and there are better ways. Vive la difference!
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