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  1. #241


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    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    At this point only time will tell. I am looking forward to Windows 9.
    Hate to break it to you, Windows 9 won't be reverting back to anything familiar, and will be expanding on the modern. The Windows Blue update will be bringing smaller tile sizes, and some Desktop UI changes.

    No start menu, that's something the new head of the Windows Division has already said won't happen, and what they've said for a good year now, and what they're continuing on not developing.

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  2. #242


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    I won't mind if the start menu is completely gone, as long as it is replaced with something more functional and better.
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  3. #243


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    Attitudes such as that, where any and every dissent is quashed, is what promotes Group Think.

    Rather than dismissing and instinctively disagreeing with critical comments, maybe it might be a better idea to consider such comments with a more open mind.

    People, especially those on forums such as this are not stupid, and if they raise issues that are of concern, maybe they are raising valid points worthy of consideration.

    While Steve Jobs was in charge of Apple, there would never be a 7" iPad, now we have one. Never say never.
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  4. #244


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    So let me get this straight.

    The addition of a button, and a menu that most people use at most a few times a day makes your use of the OS "more enjoyable"? How? I mean, really... are you using your start menu 1000x an hour?
    It does not matter if I use it once a day, or 100x an hour. For now, the OS is more complete with it there. I really wanted to like the OS without it, but as I said, I prefer more ways of getting from point a to point b, and I found the start screen method of doing it to be mostly un-intuitive. Maybe in the future, Microsoft will improve the start screen, take some pages out of other company's books, and add to the concept making it better...
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  5. #245


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    Let me ask you this.. How cool would it be, if when clicking on the start screen, along the bottom of the screen, all running programs were linked in a graphically please-able fashion. How cool would it be, if when intalling a new program in windows, you did not get 5 brand new use-less icons on your start screen that you will never use, but instead just a single, easy to see and identify link to that application.

    The absence of folders on the start screen containing other start screen size icons to destinations is very apparent. Instead, if you click a folder in start screen, you are brought to a desktop folder. Your focus shifts yet again... hence un-intuitive.

    What if when you clicked to the start screen, the search box was highlighted in the bottom right corner so the avg user new they could just start typing to get where they needed. They could type a run command if needed. Their frequently used apps were displayed right above search, and links to folders within their user profile were available slightly to the right, similar to the start screen. Clicking those links, did not open windows explorer, but swiftly shifted the start screen to display that folders contents in a meaningful way..

    Just imagine if your start scree was not just one continuous layout of icons, but a series of icons and folders displaying more icons. Less linear more 3d. I am just sayin..
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  6. #246


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    I asked you to explain HOW it makes it "more enjoyable". Like most people that make these claims, they never seem to be able to explain it. Fine, I get that maybe you like the start menu and button better, as that's simple personal preference. But "more enjoyable"? I can't understand how that is even possible. It's like saying the wrapper on your frozen dinner makes your dinner more enjoyable.

    Sometimes I think people struggle for excuses to explain their personal preferences to the point where they say silly things. Who "enjoys" a menu? It's a tool, and one most people use rarely every day.

    When I hear comments like this, it puts visions in my head of someone pressing the start button and going "Oh yeah, baby, that's the stuff".
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  7. #247


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    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    Let me ask you this.. How cool would it be, if when clicking on the start screen, along the bottom of the screen, all running programs were linked in a graphically please-able fashion. How cool would it be, if when intalling a new program in windows, you did not get 5 brand new use-less icons on your start screen that you will never use, but instead just a single, easy to see and identify link to that application.

    The absence of folders on the start screen containing other start screen size icons to destinations is very apparent. Instead, if you click a folder in start screen, you are brought to a desktop folder. Your focus shifts yet again... hence un-intuitive.

    What if when you clicked to the start screen, the search box was highlighted in the bottom right corner so the avg user new they could just start typing to get where they needed. They could type a run command if needed. Their frequently used apps were displayed right above search, and links to folders within their user profile were available slightly to the right, similar to the start screen. Clicking those links, did not open windows explorer, but swiftly shifted the start screen to display that folders contents in a meaningful way..

    Just imagine if your start scree was not just one continuous layout of icons, but a series of icons and folders displaying more icons. Less linear more 3d. I am just sayin..
    The useless program links are there due to third party developers, there isn't much on the Start Screen's behalf to change that. It takes developers to stop littering shortcuts everywhere. New software doesn't do that much. Also, it takes the user to actually unpin them versus leaving them there, then complaining about them. This is the point of highlight with the Start Screen, you're going to see the clutter, and do something about it; whether it be to unpin things, uninstall software, or group things versus leaving them buried in a folder you'll never go into, a program shortcut you'll never use, in a list of All Programs you rarely go into in a vestige of GUI that is becoming and eventually even more underused than it is in the future.

    What if, when after clicking on a start button and automatically typing in a search for six years, that piece of UI isn't relevant when the action doesn't require clicking on a search bar to type; versus just typing away at the screen.

    I'd be more for a better consolidated view of search results, I don't why there are search filters when it could just scroll horizontally in columns of files, apps, or settings. Interesting idea of the folder results. This is also an example how the Start Screen can become better, just how the start menu took 15 years to become really good.

    But the series of icons and folders in 3D perspective....this is the Aero Desktop.
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  8. #248


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    It's fairly evident that you don't even want to understand other's points of view, no matter how they try to explain. You like things as they have been dished out, fine; others don't and are voicing their concerns. Whether Microsoft sees any of this or not, and whether they take notice or not, or whether they have the slightest inclination to do anything about these concerns if they do, is another issue entirely.

    I'm using this forum as a mechanism to voice concerns and criticisms about Windows 8, as I see them. I want Microsoft to hear these concerns and criticisms and let others agree or disagree as it suits. I don't care what others think about my views, and you can debate them until the cows come home, but I'll keep pointing out issues as I find them while using Windows 8.

    I'll shut up if/when my frustration levels peak and I totally discard Windows 8.
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  9. #249


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    It's fairly evident that you don't even want to understand other's points of view, no matter how they try to explain. You like things as they have been dished out, fine; others don't and are voicing their concerns. Whether Microsoft sees any of this or not, and whether they take notice or not, or whether they have the slightest inclination to do anything about these concerns if they do, is another issue entirely.

    I'm using this forum as a mechanism to voice concerns and criticisms about Windows 8, as I see them. I want Microsoft to hear these concerns and criticisms and let others agree or disagree as it suits. I don't care what others think about my views, and you can debate them until the cows come home, but I'll keep pointing out issues as I find them while using Windows 8.

    I'll shut up if/when my frustration levels peak and I totally discard Windows 8.
    Exactly.. How is it better? Well, it is more consolidated for one. It is more familiar for another. I bet if you and I were to race to the notepad application with just a mouse, I would beat you hands down every time with the start menu vs the start screen. Just my two cents..
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  10. #250


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    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    It's fairly evident that you don't even want to understand other's points of view, no matter how they try to explain. You like things as they have been dished out, fine; others don't and are voicing their concerns. Whether Microsoft sees any of this or not, and whether they take notice or not, or whether they have the slightest inclination to do anything about these concerns if they do, is another issue entirely.

    I'm using this forum as a mechanism to voice concerns and criticisms about Windows 8, as I see them. I want Microsoft to hear these concerns and criticisms and let others agree or disagree as it suits. I don't care what others think about my views, and you can debate them until the cows come home, but I'll keep pointing out issues as I find them while using Windows 8.

    I'll shut up if/when my frustration levels peak and I totally discard Windows 8.
    Exactly.. How is it better? Well, it is more consolidated for one. It is more familiar for another. I bet if you and I were to race to the notepad application with just a mouse, I would beat you hands down every time with the start menu vs the start screen. Just my two cents..
    Erm, I'm actually agreeing with your point of view. My post was directed at mystery man.
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