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I have yet to meet anyone in person who actually likes it

  1. #231


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    win8.1.1 enterprise


    ok, so maybe i not a heavy user of my computer anymore ,no more downloading movies and mp3 and converting and burning to dvd ,don't use photo shop anymore like i once did ,,but i kind of like the new start ,even though i by pass it and go right to my desktop ,where i use my toolbar and desktop for shortcuts to the programs that i do use , going to the new start maybe once or twice in a session .but i like it just the same .
    I will agree though with the comment that Microsoft should have made it a choice ,of either old or new start .

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  2. #232


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Folk were pretty familiar with the old bakelite phones attached by wire.

    That didn't stop them taking to iphones in huge numbers.

    I just switched my brand of laundry liquid. It claims to be new - tried it - liked it - will use it.

    While we are on the subject of laundry - I recently got a new washer dryer.

    It is a different brand from my previous one - I was familiar with how to operate the old one - how to stop it mid cycle, etc. It worked fine and lasted well.

    That didn't stop me buying something different this time.

    I choose to buy/use what is better.

    MS are trying to force something on the users - because they believe it is better for MS.
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  3. #233


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    no body forced me to use win8 i have many other OS choices i chose to use Microsoft all versions except win ME and Vista i dabbled in Linux didn't like the learning curve .
    i rarely use the new start screen[i rarely used the old one i use toolbar and desktop shortcuts ] so its not an issue for me .
    the plus for me is i get Windows OS's for free[free msdn and technet accts ] so i might have a different opinion if i had paid for it .lol
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  4. #234


    Posts : 3
    Windows 8 pro


    Windows 7 is excellent. I enjoyed using in on my laptop and desktop.


    I installed Windows 8 Pro on the desktop, dual booting. Within a couple of days I found Win 8 faster and at least as usable as Win 7, so I reinstalled as single boot Win 8 only.

    I got a second copy of Win 8 for the laptop and installed dual boot. I found I was getting a lot of crashes so I decided to try a clean install of Win 8. The job is oxo: no more crashes. Go Win 8: I'm in.
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  5. #235


    Webster NY US
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    Win 7 / Win 8


    I've been using the Windows 8 desktop and it's working pretty well. I don't care about whether it's a bit flatter than Aero. It still provides all the necessary and useful visual clues one needs when navigating, etc.

    I've been visiting Metro (Start screen) occasionally. So far, it's not a very serious relationship. On the plus side of the Metro apps, if the app developer did their homework, the live tile provides some helpful information at a glance, which is an advantage over a standard program icon. For example, the metro Skype app tells you who recently tried to call you. I think a minority of the apps make good use of the live tiles, however. On the negative side, what I find quite, quite annoying is the built in Photos app. If you go into the app and then click on any option other than your local photos (e.g., you want to link to your Facebook photos) it prompts you for your MS account and won't let you pass until you have one. I find this a bit coercive.

    My main machine is still my Windows 7 laptop. I have several bigger software packages (development tools, multitrack music recording, etc) that I haven't ventured into installing on Windows 8 desktop yet. I don't really have a need to, nor do I otherwise fell compelled to. There's simply no benefit. So I can't speak to whether they are compatible. I don't think it's guaranteed that app designed for Windows 7 will work on Windows 8 desktop. The only reason I have a Windows 8 on one of my laptops is because I purchased the second laptop recently and it came pre-installed. It's usable.
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  6. #236


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by mbratch View Post
    On the negative side, what I find quite, quite annoying is the built in Photos app. If you go into the app and then click on any option other than your local photos (e.g., you want to link to your Facebook photos) it prompts you for your MS account and won't let you pass until you have one. I find this a bit coercive.

    I don't think it's guaranteed that app designed for Windows 7 will work on Windows 8 desktop.
    The reason it requires the MS account is that you can configure your facebook, twitter, etc.. accounts in People, and that functionality needs to know who you are, which is your MS Account. So it's tied to that. I don't tthink it's intended to be coercive so much as they combined all the functionality in one place for efficiency.

    While it's not guaranteed than an app designed for Windows 7 will work in Windows 8, it's almost certain that it will. Windows 8 and 7 are not that different API wise, nor are there likely to be any changes in undocumented behavior that might affect a Windows 7 app.

    More likely is an app designed for XP that may not work in 8. However, I've found compatibility mode to be quite useful most of the time. The other day, I dug up an old copy of Dungeon Keeper 2 and it wouldn't work at first, but changing compatibility mode to XP and it worked just fine.
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  7. #237


    Webster NY US
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    Win 7 / Win 8


    Facebook knows who I am without an MS account.
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  8. #238


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Apparently you don't really understand that Facebook may know how you are, but it can only communicate with your Photos app through that The Photos App software. That software needs to maintain your facebook authentication data(which is not your usename and password, but rather OpenID authentication tokens issued by FB), and Windows 8 does this by combining all your authentication data in a single place, authenticated with a single sign-on via your MS account.

    Otherwise, your photo app would need to ask for your username and password every time you used it.
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  9. #239


    Posts : 219
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    If you re-read my very first post in this thread, I explained that after several months of using the vanilla OS sans start menu, genuinely trying to like the new interface and see it as an upgrade, I installed classic shell only to find the entire experience that much better. I don't care about aero, though some will. I would rather have speed than glassy corners to my windows any day. To me, this was a sensible change, as were others that were included in the OS.

    At the core of this thread is the question of whether or not the OS is better without the start menu and just the start screen. There are a lot of folks around here who are quick to point out alternative methods for getting from point a to point b, and claiming that this new method is superior to the old. At the end of the day, it is all about how easily and efficiently each person as an end user can access their data and accomplish tasks within their graphic environment. Personally, I install rocketdock day one after loading any version of windows which gives quick access to a few things I use all the time... I add links to my favorites in explorer, and generally enjoy having more than 2 ways of getting anywhere I need to get inside of Windows. Circumstances determine which is best at any given moment, and I prefer more options to less. I love to use keyboard shortcuts, but I can't see my grandma using them, so I don't see them as a valid replacement. One cannot say, 'Just hold down the windows key + d and walla', with the bulk of pc users... I cannot understand why this is a difficult concept..

    I at least believe in the direction that Microsoft is trying to move with this iteration of windows. I see a lot of unharnessed potential in the start screen. I don't dislike the idea of an entire screen launch pad into everything I need to get to inside the os, available at the click of a button. When you get there though, it really does not deliver, imo. So much more could have been available, in a much more intuitive way. It could have had a side bar even that was a larger version of the old start menu to satisfy us die hards, tweaked to look pretty for this new generation. More telling info could be pinned to it as needed, and their could be android like folders within the start screen, so that you can store multiple links to apps inside a single icon. There was a great deal that could have been done, that wasn't. It is not an interface for advanced users. The start screen as it is, is very un-customizeable and limited when compared to other touch options in the market now-a-days. This market has come a long way as any smart phone owner should know and while I appreciate this attempt by Microsoft to step into that market with a bang, I find the new interface lacking even after using it for two months in an attempt to see it's merit. I find it hard to imagine, that a company with such resources, could expect their user base to be excited by what they have put out...

    After two months with the vanilla, I installed the classic shell only to find the OS more enjoyable. This has to say something. It is not just because it is familiar, but Microsoft cannot completely disregard everything that is familiar when they are attempting to design a user interface either... I am looking forward to Windows 9 and am hoping for an improvement. At this point only time will tell...
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  10. #240


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    So let me get this straight.

    The addition of a button, and a menu that most people use at most a few times a day makes your use of the OS "more enjoyable"? How? I mean, really... are you using your start menu 1000x an hour?
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